On 9 Dec 2008, at 18:55, Amir Michail wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 9 Dec 2008, at 18:41, Andrew Badera wrote:
define huge.

I'm not famous, but have almost 2000 followers.

early adopters probably have an easier time accruing large numbers
of followers, as do celebrities, but fame is certainly not a
requirement.

Absolutely. Be interesting, that's all it takes. And since everyone
deems interesting as something different it's not as hard as it
sounds. And huge is what you define it to be. If you're using Twitter
purely to get followers, IMHO you're not worth following. It's not a
popularity contest.

If you feel the need to force it, are you really providing value to
others?


I think many of the "serious" twitter users are tweeting frequently
because it is part of their job.  They really do need the traffic that
twitter drives to their web site.

And so I think there's a real need for a service that helps you
increase followers, especially ones who might actually find your
tweets interesting.

As with other people on the list I encourage you to develop something if you believe it will add value to the Twitter ecosystem. However, based on your description of what you're thinking I think you would benefit from reversing the PR pitch to helping users find people to follow rather than helping users get followers. It's a much better proposition.

-Stut

Speaking of popularity contests, my latest Twitter-based project is
currently in private(ish) beta. To check it out sign up to the
following Google Group for access details: 
http://groups.google.com/group/twitorfit
- launching publicly at Twinterval on Monday.

-Stut

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 9 Dec 2008, at 18:04, Amir Michail wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, jstrellner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

To me, this sounds like MLM, based off of twitter, just slightly
modified. If you want to go this route, why not just say, "if you
follow me, I'll follow you and we'll both get higher numbers.
Maybe
you'll like what I have to say too."

How do you do this without spamming a huge number of people?  Why
do
you think many people would look at your twitter page to read
such a
message?

In my experience the best way to get new followers is not to ask for
them, either directly or through using any service with the sole
purpose of allowing you to pimp yourself as worth following. If
you're
worth following people will follow. It's then up to you whether you
reciprocate or not. Personally I look their last few pages and
base my
decision on that. If I'm not interested in that then there's no
value
in my following them.

How many people has this worked for?  From what I understand, people
with a huge number of followers on twitter were already famous before
using twitter.

Amir


But that's just the way I see it.

-Stut

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Honestly though, this completely misses the whole point of
Twitter.

On Dec 8, 7:51 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders
to
fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but
stubborn persistence regardless.

And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for
some
renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys.
Guys
who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises
just
to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most
people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and
chaw
through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the
1990's. Those types. Where would we be now?

The thing I'm missing in your proposal - I can't see the
nookie. I
mean, are users getting a higher quality of selection of tweets
because you do the Turing exam? Or are they going to get more
followers because you have a pool of twitters at the other end
waiting
for them? (because of the quality of feed).

Suppose you have two twitter users who are each working on a
web 2.0
startup and would like to increase the number of their twitter
followers to better their chances of startup success.

They could go to this service to increase their followers.

So in using this service, they find each other. Even though they
don't necessarily want to increase the number of people they
follow,
they might discover cool tweets that they would like to see
anyway.

And so they end up following each other, even though it was not
their
intent to follow more people.

Amir





Not cutting, just trying to understand.

Waitman

On Dec 8, 7:11 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Waitman Gobble
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...

Anyways, back to the original topic.

I don't understand WHERE these "Them" are going to submit.
(re:
original post). I guess that's what I'm missing.

Waitman

At the service using the twitter API that I'm thinking of
building.  I
didn't realize this idea was so difficult to understand though.
Maybe
I shouldn't even try...

Amir

On Dec 8, 5:54 pm, Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
It's because people who are new, or considered new due to few
posts, are
automatically put in the moderation queue.
spam, which I'm sure

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