Those are all technical issues. I'm talking about usability issues for
non-technical users. However, none of what I'd have to say is
different than what I've already said on the topic, and I'm sure
things will work out fine in time.

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On Feb 9, 5:11 pm, Nicholas Moline <[email protected]> wrote:
> Assuming Twitter keeps to a long/no expiration model for the OAuth tokens
> (as I understand it, it currently is set to not expire in the beta), or
> better yet, have a choice method for how long the token will last, for users
> accessing a site that accesses twitter, have a short expiration (an hour or
> a day), but have the option to create a token for client side applications
> that don't expire, then there shouldn't be a problem.  You have your client
> program check to see if your token is valid, if it is not, spit out the url
> to get a new token, then you just paste your token back into your app's
> information and it's good for another 6 months or forever or whatever.
> It should even be possible to have your script get the token for you, for
> your own purposes if you store your login information, you can have your
> script access the url, get the token, and save it.
>
> There should be no real reason to save end user's login information, they
> should grant you access for the time periods that they access the site, it's
> much more secure that way overall, and if Twitter keeps to a long expiration
> model, saving those tokens to act for a period of time should be fine.
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:03 PM, funkatron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I still maintain that this works fine for knowledgeable web dev folks
> > (who seem to be the people who get excited about OAuth), but *will*
> > confuse users who don't understand the tech involved, and/or aren't
> > comfortable jumping between apps. In addition, the process becomes
> > even more problematic with apps that don't run on a modern windowing
> > platform (like CLIs, mobile devices, and the like).
>
> > If you have hard numbers from usability studies that prove my
> > suspicions unfounded, that would be *great*. I'd love to be wrong.
>
> > --
> > Ed Finkler
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> > AIM: funka7ron
> > ICQ: 3922133
> > Skype: funka7ron
>
> > On Feb 9, 4:12 pm, Blaine Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > OAuth was designed with explicit desktop application support in mind.
> > > To see how it works in practice, try using a desktop Flickr Uploader
> > > or iMovie's YouTube integration.
>
> > > Normally your app will open a browser window (all modern environments
> > > do this seamlessly) and ask the user to authorize the application.
> > > Once they've done that, they should be told to go back to the
> > > application (close the browser window) and continue the setup process
> > > (usually by just clicking "Continue" or OK so that the desktop app
> > > knows that it's OK to exchange the request token for the access
> > > token).
>
> > > b.
>
>

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