A very good point. I'll take this up with product.

On Jun 5, 10:58 am, Chad Etzel <jazzyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, at least that confirms my suspicions about why those updates were
> not being delivered.
>
> If I may make an argument to separate the policy between Search and
> Hosebird (at least for the /follow methods)...
>
> In the case of the /follow methods (as opposed to the unfiltered
> /(fire|garden)hose methods), there is specific intent to get the
> updates of a particular user.  Even if Twitter considers a user
> unworthy of indexing in Search (for whatever reason), I purposefully
> want to receive their updates and am stating as much by putting their
> userid in the "follow" parameter.  In other words, I am opting-in to
> get those updates whether Twitter considers them spammy or not.
>
> If a user account is not in an officially suspended state, I think
> they should be fair game for /follow methods.
>
> Any other opinions out there?
> -Chad
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM, John Kalucki <jkalu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There are multiple bits set for accounts that control various levels
> > of access and all kinds of folderol. It's complicated and for mostly
> > understandable reasons, purposefully opaque. Search and Hosebird
> > currently have identical access rules, but that's subject to change.
>
> > In this case, it appears that everything is working by the rules, if
> > not also by design. These two concepts are not always in alignment!
>
> > -John Kalucki
> > Services, Twitter, Inc.
>
> > On Jun 5, 10:09 am, Chad Etzel <jazzyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi John, et al.
>
> >> I have been playing with the /follow streams and noticed that some
> >> users' updates don't appear at all.  This was really confounding for
> >> quite a while.  Then I noticed that using the search API to search for
> >> "from:user" returned no recent results.
>
> >> An example is @KimSherrell.  I have been trying to get her updates in
> >> the /follow stream (she posts *a lot*) as a way to verify that it is
> >> working.  Lo and behold her most recent entry in the Search API is
> >> from 5 days ago:http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from:kimsherrell
>
> >> I know there is some administrative bit on the accounts that
> >> determines whether a user will be indexed by Search; is this same bit
> >> used to determine whether their updates will go out on the Hosebird
> >> streams?  If so, may I ask why?
>
> >> Thanks!
> >> -Chad

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