Andrew us absolutely correct. I personally bear full responsibility
for letting that flawed contract get into production, even on a beta.
It was likewise my error of judgment to assume that the alpha testers
had been fine with the proposed contract merely because we had not
received adverse feedback.
We're listening. We're learning.
Our comment on Bradley's post (http://bit.ly/DgM40) summarizes some of
the contentious points we're revising, but there are others.
To make this right, we'd like to better engage the TwitterAPI
community in reviewing our next version. We are also separating the
claiming terms from the resale terms.
One more thing worth mentioning, we held off on building features that
will allow developers to offer items for sale because we want to work
that - and the related contract issues - out in close cooperation with
developers. We'd love to hear from you if you want to have a voice on
I've been sending out my cell # on all emails bound for developers
because we want to be extremely accessible to developers. on email,
We will be working hard to earn your trust and to discover how we can
(sent from @pistachio: RT @dwroelands @oneforty needs to change their
developer contract #onefortycontract http://bit.ly/DgM40 //we're
On Oct 8, 10:21 pm, Andrew Badera <and...@badera.us> wrote:
> All else aside ... lawyers complicate things? Maybe, but you don't
> launch a product/platform and expect commitment from outside parties
> until YOU are happy with what YOUR lawyers have produced and thus YOU
> are offering to the outside world.
> There's no defense for a questionable contract. You stand behind your
> contract, or you don't publish it. Period.
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> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Michael Ivey <michael.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform."
> > I think this is a demonstrably false statement. All of my interactions with
> > Laura and the 140 team have been very positive, and she's made it clear that
> > they're working on the contract. Sometimes lawyers overcomplicate things,
> > and it takes time to dial it back.
> > And yes, when I claimed Twitpay I balked at the contract initially. We don't
> > have an app to sell, so none of it applied to us, and I knew Laura was
> > working on it, so I went ahead with the registration.
> > Whether you sign it or not, I hope people will give Laura and her team time
> > to sort this out. She's a good person, and has shown a real desire to make
> > something good here.
> > -- ivey
> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Duane Roelands <duane.roela...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> I read it, and I was horrified. So, I logged into IRC and found two
> >> members of the OneForty development team. I asked them to remove my
> >> application from the directory.
> >> They refused.
> >> OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform.
> >> On Oct 8, 7:44 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" <brad...@praexis.com> wrote:
> >> > wow, somehow managed to totally miss that thread... thanks!
> >> > On Oct 8, 6:07 pm, Dewald Pretorius <dpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > There's another thread herehttp://bit.ly/Owfvdwherethedeveloper
> >> > > contract also raised some eyebrows.
> >> > > Dewald
> >> > > On Oct 8, 7:25 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" <brad...@praexis.com> wrote:
> >> > > > There has been a lot of buzz around OneForty.com and what it will
> >> > > > mean
> >> > > > for all of us Twitter app developers. However, some of the things in
> >> > > > their developer contract (that you have to agree to in order to
> >> > > > claim
> >> > > > your application on their side) gave us (Squeejee) pause after we
> >> > > > decided to read the fine print.
> >> > > > Please see read the contract for yourself
> >> > > > (http://oneforty.com/terms/
> >> > > > publisher_contract), see our blog post with our concerns (http://
> >> > > > squeejee.com/blog/2009/10/08/questions-for-oneforty) and leave your
> >> > > > comments!
> >> > > > Laura Fitton, the founder of oneforty.com, has been very receptive
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > wants to engage in open dialogue about the contract. Please add to
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > discussion!