Hey Taylor,

These lists are zombies.

Through Twitter.com, I have failed to change the status from private
to public, change the name or add a member. When I select a member to
add from the find people search, then user-actions list-menu button,
it appears to have worked: the "Your lists: list-name" tag appears
below the selected user. But the action has actually failed - the list
page shows no members.

Attempting to add a member via the API, I get an XML <list> element
with <member_count>0</member_count>. Attempting to delete the list via
the API returns the same <list>... undead!


On Sep 30, 10:30 pm, Taylor Singletary <taylorsinglet...@twitter.com>
> Hey Ken,
> Lists really are a sometimes embarrassing corner of the API, not going
> to mince words there.
> What is the type of failure you're getting when deleting the lists via the 
> API?
> A lingering bug around is that lists without users often cannot be
> deleted correctly. If you're still having this problem, can you try
> adding a user to a list you haven't been able to delete and then try
> the deletion?
> Your batch creation problems do seem to be more availability-bound
> than anything else.
> As for the seemingly-chaotic naming convention of duplicately named
> lists: yes, it boggles the mind. Best to just make sure you check the
> names of lists a member already has before attempting to create a new
> one at this time.
> Taylor
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Ken D. <k...@cimas.ch> wrote:
> > I resolved this problem by adding a few seconds of sleep after
> > creating a list and populating it. The problem did not appear when I
> > first tested my code, but it was morning European time and Twitter may
> > not have been too busy.
> > In the process of finding this out, I seem to have created some
> > corrupt lists that cannot be edited or deleted.
> > May I ask someone from Twitter to kindly contact me to help get these
> > lists removed from my account!
> > Thanks!
> > Ken
> > On Sep 29, 9:33 pm, "Ken D." <k...@cimas.ch> wrote:
> >> I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
> >> create_all method.
> >> 1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
> >> create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
> >> able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
> >> sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.
> >> 2.) Viewing the result on 'old' 
> >> twitter.com,http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
> >> will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
> >> link, "Following: 0". On the list page 
> >> itself,http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
> >> no tweets are shown, only the "Find people to add to your list:"
> >> search box.
> >> 3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
> >> manually on Twitter.com.
> >> Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
> >> "mylist" twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second "mylist"
> >> will not be called "mylist-2", but mylist-13!
> >> Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
> >> important, so any advice will be appreciated.
> >> Cheers!
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