I'm slowly converting to RAD Studio 2010 [C++ Personality], but have XE and 
will likely get whatever comes after XE2, assuming they build 64-bit C++ into 
it.  Once I convert my existing app from CBuilder 6, I'm good with anything 
from 2010 on.  In the meantime, certainly I can continue to use the current 
version of ICS with Cbuilder 6.

Thanks,
I.



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Should next ICS version support anything before DelphiXE
      ? (Jeff Hamblin)
   2. Re: Should next ICS version support anything      beforeDelphiXE ?
      (Lars Gehre)
   3. Re: Should next ICS version support anything before       Delphi  XE
      ? (Jeff Cook)
   4. Re: Should next ICS version support anything before Delphi XE
      ? (RTT)
   5. Re: Should next ICS version support anything before DelphiXE
      ? (Darin McGee)
   6. Re: Should next ICS version support anything before       Delphi XE
      ? (Dod)
   7. Re: Should next ICS version support anything before       Delphi XE
      ? (Primoz Gabrijelcic)
   8. Re: Should next ICS version support anything before Delphi        XE
      ? (Kochendoerfer, Michael)
   9. Re: Should next ICS version support anything before       Delphi  XE
      ? (Stefan Paege)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:27:05 -0700
From: Jeff Hamblin <jphamb...@qtools.com>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        before DelphiXE ?
To: ICS support mailing <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID: <4f739039.8030...@qtools.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I am still using D2007, and very happy with the current version of ICS.

I don't have any problem with a new version of ICS starting fresh at XE or 
whatever you choose.

-Jeff


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:58:11 +0200
From: "Lars Gehre" <l...@dvbviewer.com>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        beforeDelphiXE ?
To: "'ICS support mailing'" <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID: <5B7EFA005BBC41A9AE197A880F8BAC74@PowerPC>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

Well I for my part would like see the IP V6 branch of Arno Garrels as the next 
ICS V8 (with support of older Delphi versions, XE2 firemonkey and x64
bit) because it is a REAL step forward for ICS and useful without new language 
mumbo jumbo. ;)

I'm not saying there might be a time to make a cut and say that's it for now 
only the current and following Versions of delphi. But come on, IP V6 IS coming 
and it is big and it will be needed also in "legacy" applications developed 
with older Delphi versions.

Regards
Lars



> -----Original Message-----
> From: twsocket-boun...@elists.org
> [mailto:twsocket-boun...@elists.org] On Behalf Of Arno Garrels
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:00 PM
> To: ICS support mailing
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support
> anything beforeDelphiXE ?
>
> Fran?ois Piette wrote:
>
> > I'm planning the next ICS version.
>
> Interesting, I'm planning it since last year as well, namely
> in the IPv6/FireMonkey beta branch and while porting ICS to
> XE2 64-bit. What are your actual plans except abandon support
> for older compilers?
>
> > Being unable to use any features added to Delphi in the
> last 10 years
> > is very restricted.  Maybe we need to cease support for old Delphi
> > versions ?
>
> Abandon Delphi 7 support was just stupid unless someone
> rewrites ICS to take full advantage of the new and powerful
> language features at the same time, sorry ( I won't be the
> guy doing this ).
>
> Actually the tweaks required to get current ICS compiled from
> D7 up to latest RAD Studio version are **very minor** (oh,
> this property StrictDelimiter doesn't exist in D7? **come on**).
> BTW: Indy still supports D5!
>
> Taking into account that many of the new language features
> can't be used without problems before XE/2010 (because of
> bugs), it makes *no sense* at all to abandon D7 if at the
> same time support for D2007 is kept. It would make sense
> though to start a _new version from *scratch*, such an
> incarnation of ICS ;) would then of course support only XE+
> or maybe D2010+, is that your plan?
>
> --
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> >
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> >
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:01:43 +1300
From: "Jeff Cook" <je...@aspect.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        before  Delphi  XE ?
To: "'ICS support mailing'" <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID: <564488A473534B26B2B910581DD8BEE9@ASL3>
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Hi

Still on Delphi 7.  My app uses DBISAM v3 from ElevateSoft and Delphi 7 is
the last Delphi supported.  To go to DelphiAnythingNewer I have to go to
DBISAM v4 or ElevateDB - both of these options have substantial work
involved for little visible advantage to the user, so for them moment I'm
doing the user stuff and sticking with D7.  ICS V5 is working well for me.

Thanks

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-----Original Message-----
From: twsocket-boun...@elists.org [mailto:twsocket-boun...@elists.org] On
Behalf Of Fran?ois Piette
Sent: 28-Mar-12 11:59
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything before Delphi
XE ?

Hi !



I'm planning the next ICS version.

Being unable to use any features added to Delphi in the last 10 years is
very restricted.  Maybe we need to cease support for old Delphi versions ?
Of course ICS V5 and V7 will remains available however, the only changes
will be bug fixes.



What do you think ? Please keep your answer as short as possible, I just
want to have an idea about how many of you are still using an old Delphi
version.



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:10:35 +0100
From: RTT <p...@sapo.pt>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        before Delphi XE ?
To: ICS support mailing <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID: <4f739a6b.5040...@sapo.pt>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 28-03-2012 19:59, Fran?ois Piette wrote:
> I just
> want to have an idea about how many of you are still using an old Delphi
> version.
Still using the old good D7.
If you are asking this them I suppose you haven't coded yet any
significant part of the planned new version?
What changes you have in mind? If you are not going to rewrite what is
done already, don't see what special, not available yet, features would
benefit so much of the new Delphi versions language enhancements. Other
than new, more high level components. The client components really need
to be more advanced, IMO.



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:35:36 -0400
From: "Darin McGee" <da...@basehex.com>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        before DelphiXE ?
To: "ICS support mailing" <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID: <3df7e292ca66f7499ba6275db0b034f2337...@main.basehex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Even though D7 is 10 years old and I have all the versions 1 - XE2, it is by 
far the most stable, fewest bugs version ever released.  When I can, I do it in 
7.  But then again I can appreciate the effort involved in keeping ICS working 
over so many versions and would understand having the newer ICS only supporting 
the last few versions of Delphi.  As far as Fire Monkey, not interested in a 
port however hopefully sometime in the future Linux.

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Behalf Of Fran?ois Piette
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:59 PM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything before DelphiXE ?

Hi !



I'm planning the next ICS version...

Being unable to use any features added to Delphi in the last 10 years is very 
restricted.  Maybe we need to cease support for old Delphi versions ?
Of course ICS V5 and V7 will remains available however, the only changes will 
be bug fixes.



What do you think ? Please keep your answer as short as possible, I just want 
to have an idea about how many of you are still using an old Delphi version.



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:35:02 +0200
From: Dod <do...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        before  Delphi XE ?
To: ICS support mailing <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID: <588537430.20120328233...@yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hello,

Still  using  D7  and  jumped to XE2 for new 64 bits devs that request
hudge memory usage.

regards.



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:04:33 +0200
From: Primoz Gabrijelcic <pri...@gabrijelcic.org>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        before  Delphi XE ?
To: ICS support mailing <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID: <1212201763.20120329080...@gabrijelcic.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

D2007  and  XE2  here,  but we are phasing out D2007 (although that is
happening  very  slowly). If new version would be backwards compatible
in the API, I don't see a problem using old ICS with D2007 and new ICS
with XE2, 3 ...

Primoz

> I?m planning the next ICS version?

> Being unable to use any features added to Delphi in the last 10 years is
> very restricted.  Maybe we need to cease support for old Delphi versions ?
> Of course ICS V5 and V7 will remains available however, the only changes
> will be bug fixes.

>

> What do you think ? Please keep your answer as short as possible, I just
> want to have an idea about how many of you are still using an old Delphi
> version.



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:47:11 +0200
From: "Kochendoerfer, Michael" <m...@hem.de>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        before Delphi   XE ?
To: "'ICS support mailing'" <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID:
        <4a4801d4527df24b86d2aa30c1d1a641eb610ef...@hemexc003.zen.hem.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I'm currently on D7 (which is very stable). IMHO ICS should at least D7.

Michael


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Behalf Of Fran?ois Piette
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:59 PM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything before Delphi XE ?

Hi !



I'm planning the next ICS version...

Being unable to use any features added to Delphi in the last 10 years is
very restricted.  Maybe we need to cease support for old Delphi versions ?
Of course ICS V5 and V7 will remains available however, the only changes
will be bug fixes.



What do you think ? Please keep your answer as short as possible, I just
want to have an idea about how many of you are still using an old Delphi
version.



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:31:53 +0200
From: "Stefan Paege" <pa...@el-carls.de>
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything
        before  Delphi  XE ?
To: "'ICS support mailing'" <twsocket@elists.org>
Message-ID: <001401cd0d7e$039f14d0$0add3e70$@de>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

All current projects are D2007.
Some older projects are D5, D7.

Unicode conversion has not yet begun and I'm scared of it. So much code in
my own libraries...

  Stefan Paege

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> Von: twsocket-boun...@elists.org [mailto:twsocket-boun...@elists.org]
> Im Auftrag von Fran?ois Piette
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. M?rz 2012 20:59
> An: ICS support mailing
> Betreff: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything before
> Delphi XE ?
>
> Hi !
>
>
>
> I?m planning the next ICS version?
>
> Being unable to use any features added to Delphi in the last 10 years
> is very restricted.  Maybe we need to cease support for old Delphi
> versions ?
> Of course ICS V5 and V7 will remains available however, the only
> changes will be bug fixes.
>
>
>
> What do you think ? Please keep your answer as short as possible, I
> just want to have an idea about how many of you are still using an old
> Delphi version.
>
>
>
> --
>
> francois.pie...@overbyte.be
>
> The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare
>
> The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS)
>
> http://www.overbyte.be
>
>
>
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