On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:49 PM, Tim Lucas wrote:

> Just thought Duane's recent post might have some relevance to Typo:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rails/14513
>
> Might be a good way to keep Typo core separate from from site- 
> specific customisations... though it would quickly become  
> unmaintainable if people are overriding things willy-nilly. Nothing  
> can replace a set of well thought-out and documented extension points.

I'm using SVK to maintain my local Typo, and keep track of the Typo  
trunk, my patches for Typo that I send off to Trac for inclusion, and  
my local changes that aren't intended for submission.  It's working  
pretty well so far.

Here are the two blog entries that I wrote on the topic:

   http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/07/07/distributed- 
development-with-svk
   http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/07/08/checking-everything- 
into-svk


Scott
From markc at renta.net  Wed Jul 13 02:29:09 2005
From: markc at renta.net (Mark Constable)
Date: Wed Jul 13 02:24:09 2005
Subject: [typo] Keeping Typo's codebase separate from site-specific
        customisations
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On Wednesday 13 July 2005 14:49, Tim Lucas wrote:
> Just thought Duane's recent post might have some relevance to Typo:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rails/14513

That was a timely post, thank you! I'm a ruby/rails/typo newbie and
I cannot deploy typo until I come up with a true multihosting solution
for rails/typo.. which is proving to be difficult but probably because
of my lack of understanding of how rails really works.

FWIW, as a comparison, we use Drupal as a CMS that is available to our
4000 ISP/vhost clients off a single copy of the 1.8Mb Drupal codebase.
I only have to change 2 lines in the PHP include files to pull the main
config file from the users homedir for their MySQL perms and we have
1000s of separate Drupal sites running in full PHP safe-mode. We provide
phpBB2 and Gallery in a similar manner but now changing it so that
Drupal is _the_ system with a photo gallery module included instead.

I can't deploy rails/typo for real until I emulate this kind of setup.

> Might be a good way to keep Typo core separate from from site-specific 
> customisations... though it would quickly become unmaintainable if 
> people are overriding things willy-nilly. Nothing can replace a set of 
> well thought-out and documented extension points.

Absolutely. Please keep in mind a true multihosting solution!

--markc
From jluster at jluster.org  Wed Jul 13 02:39:52 2005
From: jluster at jluster.org (Jonas M Luster)
Date: Wed Jul 13 02:35:11 2005
Subject: [typo] Keeping Typo's codebase separate from site-specific
        customisations
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> FWIW, as a comparison, we use Drupal as a CMS that is available to our
> 4000 ISP/vhost clients off a single copy of the 1.8Mb Drupal codebase.
>
> I can't deploy rails/typo for real until I emulate this kind of setup.

As someone who codes on Drupal stuff and uses Typo for his weblog, I  
should point out the obvious differences between a weblogging system  
and a CMS with a working, albeit limited, weblog entry module  
included. Drupal used to be rather monolithic as well, pre  
'settings/' directory (4.6, respective CVS trunk releases), but had  
been written from the get-go with some multi-hosting in mind. All in  
all, I think it's unfair to both Typo and Drupal to attempt to  
compare the two :)

jonas
From markc at renta.net  Wed Jul 13 03:07:52 2005
From: markc at renta.net (Mark Constable)
Date: Wed Jul 13 03:02:51 2005
Subject: [typo] Keeping Typo's codebase separate from site-specific
        customisations
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On Wednesday 13 July 2005 16:39, Jonas M Luster wrote:
> > FWIW, as a comparison, we use Drupal as a CMS that is available to our
> > 4000 ISP/vhost clients off a single copy of the 1.8Mb Drupal codebase.
> >
> > I can't deploy rails/typo for real until I emulate this kind of setup.
> 
> As someone who codes on Drupal stuff and uses Typo for his weblog, I  
> should point out the obvious differences between a weblogging system  
> and a CMS with a working, albeit limited, weblog entry module  
> included. Drupal used to be rather monolithic as well, pre  
> 'settings/' directory (4.6, respective CVS trunk releases), but had  
> been written from the get-go with some multi-hosting in mind. All in  
> all, I think it's unfair to both Typo and Drupal to attempt to  
> compare the two :)

I did say "rails/typo" as typo is fully dependant on the rails framework,
of course, so how typo could be extended into a full multihosting
equivalent would largely depend on how the rails framework is tweaked.

And I think it would be even fairer to say Drupal evolved into a much
better multihosting app because of demand. Earlier versions were NOT
multihosting friendly at all. I suspect rails and typo will come under
the same requirement (hey, I'm one who wants it) so all I am suggesting
as typo devel moves forward is to keep full multihosting in mind.

I am hugely encouraged by the appearence of this thread on this list.

--markc
From robin-lists at robinbowes.com  Tue Jul 19 08:00:52 2005
From: robin-lists at robinbowes.com (Robin Bowes)
Date: Tue Jul 19 07:55:20 2005
Subject: [typo] typo installed on apache2 with fastcgi
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

Just to let you know that I've just installed typo (from SVN) on my 
Fedora Core 4 box with apache2 and using fastcgi.

Site is here: http://typo.robinbowes.com

The only article is a brief dump of how I solved the fastcgi problems!

Hope someone finds this useful.

R.
-- 
http://robinbowes.com

If a man speaks in a forest,
and his wife's not there,
is he still wrong?
From hassanhodges at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 13:31:00 2005
From: hassanhodges at gmail.com (Hassan Hodges)
Date: Tue Jul 19 13:25:36 2005
Subject: [typo] DoubleRenderError
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm a newbie with Rails and Typo.

I downloaded typo 2.0.6 this morning and haven't been able to get it
to run. It's giving me a "DoubleRenderError" error.

highlights from the error page:

ActionController::DoubleRenderError in Articles#<action not set>

Render and/or redirect were called multiple times in this action.

script/server:49

Response

Headers: {"Status"=>"302 Found", "cookie"=>[],
"Content-Type"=>"text/html", "Cache-Control"=>"no-cache",
"location"=>"http://localhost:3000/accounts/signup"}


I'm running webbrick on a mac, and already tried gem updates.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
-Hassan

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