sorry it was the wrong button i pressed as the mail was not ready.

Again and again I only see lots of trials to make things unaffordable for top 
asian developers who work in the background of lots of german and european 
agencies without getting paid like them. 

It is really a pitty that only money counts. Pay Silver for a year. Well this 
is poket money for anyone in Germany developing sites , perhaps even with the 
help of Asian or South American Manpower.

550 euro entrance fee plus 770 euro yearly fee plus 200 euro reviewfeewith no 
guarantee that their listing gets listed at all as the other requirements 
mentioned are mostly "pi mal daumen" depending perhaps even on goodwill. 
Therefore I recommend that there will be also an open listing available for 
free. Requirement of course would be that the website of the company is running 
on Typo3 - this is possible for any developer of Typo3 even without any costs 
involved.

This would give all those developers who are more or less excluded from 
reaching the mentioned requirements in near future. We here in Asia don't need 
another European approach to make some European Developers richer with the 
cheap manpower from the east as they can't promote themselves even they often 
do the real jobs ;-)

Joh316 is not at all met with this approach!

Such kind of "Western Only" listings is complete contraproductive for promoting 
TYPO3 ie here in Asia. 

With the Asian Conference which seem to turn out like an Internet Conference 
TYPO3 could gain a bit more leads against very well and huge growing 
competitors like Drupal and Joomla here in Asia.

Already worries have been published if this would be only another European 
Meetup with a Cambodian Company. Prices are to high. Same it is with the 
Listing Prices on TYPO3.org. Instead of bringing the world community of TYPO3 
Developers together it will help to fight a war west against east.

Why does the leadership in TYPO3 not realizes that things in Asia are simply 
working different and that especially a Free Open Source Product like TYPO3 
should als promote the Free Open Source Idee in other parts of live. This does 
not mean Free = Free beer! but much more Free = Freedom.

A Listing which will cost an Asian developer a quarter to halfyears sallary is 
therefore not acceptable at all.

It is very very frustrating since about 3 years, accompanied by multiple 
updates which break things and often "are stable as a windows 
update"(Commentary from a customer) to see how nothing gets left out to leave 
the poor poor and make the rich even richer - often with the manpower of the 
poor.

"Inspire to share" is far far away from that what is going on since the last 
years, since the "T3-King" resigned from his thrown.

Andi




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On May 25, 2012, at 20:52, Peter Pröll <peter.pro...@typo3.org> wrote:

> Am 25.05.12 15:20, schrieb Andreas Becker:
> > Und wieso erhalten wir diese Mail dann nicht - ist diese nur fuer
> > ausgewaehlte Agenturen gemeint?
> >
> > Andi
> 
> Hallo Andi,
> 
> wir haben Anfang April die typo3.org relaunched. Auch mit dem PSL 
> (Professional Service Listing), siehe 
> http://typo3.org/support/professional-services/
> 
> Wir kommen leider jetzt erst dazu, dass wir darauf nochmal zusätzlich per 
> Mail bzw. Newsletter darauf hinweisen. Ein allererster NL-Versand ging jetzt 
> an die Agenturen, die zuvor auf typo3.com gelistet waren. Und das soll nicht 
> bedeuten, dass nur diese Agenturen von uns berücksichtigt werden. Eines nach 
> dem anderen. Die Info an die Mitgliederliste der T3A ist auch in 
> Vorbereitung. Danach weitere sinnvolle Verteiler.
> 
> In der Mail steht auch nichts, was nun nicht öffentlich bekannt wäre, sondern 
> nur noch einmal ein Hinweis auf das Listing und die Aufforderung, sich jetzt 
> dort listen zu lassen.
> 
> Gerne als "Beweis" unten angehängt der Text der Mail, mit der Bitte, Euch 
> alle im Listing eintragen zu lassen ;-). Ein dichtes Netzwerk an 
> professionellen und qualifizierten Agenturen hilft uns allen.
> 
> Herzlichst & frohe Pfingsten,
> Peter
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peter Pröll
> Member of the TYPO3 Expert Advisory Board
> Member of the Marketing Team
> 
> tel +49 (0)2449 2849760
> 
> TYPO3 Association, Sihlbruggstrasse 105, 6340 Baar, Switzerland
> http://association.typo3.org
> 
> 
> ======================================
> Dear TYPO3 Supporter!
> Surely, you have already noticed that the official typo3.org website has been 
> re-launched last month. Your company used to be listed on the previous 
> typo3.org website in the “Consultancy Listing”. This listing has now been 
> replaced by the brand new “Professional Services Listing”.
> 
> The Professional Services Listing
> Compared to the previous “Consultancy Listing”, the new Professional Services 
> Listing doesn’t have a list-all character anymore. Every entry is approved 
> manually by a review committee of the TYPO3 Association and every listed 
> agency has to meet the Listing Requirements. This quality control was 
> designed to make choosing a suitable and professional agency more reliable 
> for a potential TYPO3 client and to enable more successful projects.
> 
> Get Listed!
> Now is the time to get your agency into the Professional Services Listing. It 
> will bring great exposure to your company and present you as a leader in the 
> TYPO3 services world. If you want to get listed, please go through the 
> approval process on the typo3.org website.
> 
> A step by step documentation on how the process works and how to get your 
> company reviewed by the TYPO3 Association can be found on typo3.org. Get 
> started by reading the “How to get listed” pages to make sure the process is 
> clear to you. Additionally it will help to read the FAQs and the Listing 
> Requirements very carefully to make sure you meet all the requirements before 
> starting the process.
> 
> We look forward to seeing the Professional Services Listing grow and flourish 
> and become a great representation of the healthy TYPO3 Ecosphere. Get Listed 
> Now!
> 
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