Hi Heinrich,

On Sat, 4 Sept 2021 at 12:08, Heinrich Schuchardt <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Am 4. September 2021 19:39:49 MESZ schrieb Tom Rini <[email protected]>:
> >On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 07:03:48PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
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> >> Am 4. September 2021 16:37:22 MESZ schrieb Tom Rini <[email protected]>:
> >> >On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 03:08:38PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Am 4. September 2021 15:01:11 MESZ schrieb Tom Rini 
> >> >> <[email protected]>:
> >> >> >On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Dear Tom,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The following changes since commit 
> >> >> >> 94509b79b13e69c209199af0757afbde8d2ebd6d:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   btrfs: Use default subvolume as filesystem root (2021-09-01 
> >> >> >> 10:11:24
> >> >> >> -0400)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> are available in the Git repository at:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   https://source.denx.de/u-boot/custodians/u-boot-efi.git
> >> >> >> tags/efi-2021-10-rc4
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> for you to fetch changes up to 
> >> >> >> 1dfa494610c5469cc28cf1f8538abf4be6c00324:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   efi_loader: fix efi_tcg2_hash_log_extend_event() parameter check
> >> >> >> (2021-09-04 09:15:09 +0200)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> Pull request for efi-2021-10-rc4
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Documentation:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>     Remove invalid reference to configuration variable in UEFI doc
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> UEFI:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>     Parameter checks for the EFI_TCG2_PROTOCOL
> >> >> >>     Improve support of preseeding UEFI variables.
> >> >> >>     Correct the calculation of the size of loaded images.
> >> >> >>     Allow for UEFI images with zero VirtualSize
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> Heinrich Schuchardt (5):
> >> >> >>       efi_loader: sections with zero VirtualSize
> >> >> >>       efi_loader: rounding of image size
> >> >> >>       efi_loader: don't load signature database from file
> >> >> >>       efi_loader: efi_auth_var_type for AuditMode, DeployedMode
> >> >> >>       efi_loader: correct determination of secure boot state
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Masahisa Kojima (3):
> >> >> >>       efi_loader: add missing parameter check for EFI_TCG2_PROTOCOL 
> >> >> >> api
> >> >> >>       efi_loader: fix boot_service_capability_min calculation
> >> >> >>       efi_loader: fix efi_tcg2_hash_log_extend_event() parameter 
> >> >> >> check
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And I don't see Simon's revert in here either.  And he asked you about
> >> >> >that yesterday:
> >> >> >https://lore.kernel.org/r/capnjgz3erdjf0jb9s-cjk6y+feuyrywf0hnkf2trib4dr4u...@mail.gmail.com/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >So at this point, are you asserting there is nothing to revert?
> >> >>
> >> >> Never. Simons "revert" is breaking functionality. The concept for 
> >> >> suporting blobs in devicetrees supplied by a prior bootstage has not 
> >> >> been defined yet.
> >> >
> >> >And to be clearer, reverting something that was introduced in one rc in
> >> >a later rc isn't breaking functionality.  U-Boot releases (well, the
> >> >non-rc ones for sure) are on a very regular schedule.  External projects
> >> >may not depend on some feature introduced at -rcN unless they're willing
> >> >to accept that some changes could happen before release.
> >> >
> >>
> >> There is no value delivered by Simon's series. Neither does the image get 
> >> smaller nor does it fix anything. If he wants to enforce a design, it must 
> >> work for all use cases. But this requires some conceptual work.
> >
> >Yes, and what's the rush to not do the conceptual work?  If I recall
> >part of the thread correctly, yes, Simon didn't get his objections in
> >before the patches were merged, but it was early enough in the release
> >cycle that taking a step back and reverting was a reasonable request.
> >What he had said wouldn't have changed if he had gotten the email out a
> >few days earlier.
> >
> >So yes, please merge Simon's revert, or post and merge new more minimal
> >revert that brings things to the same functional end.  There are
> >objections to this implementation, and thus far Simon has been
> >responding all of the requests to better clarify all of the related code
> >and concepts that have been asked of him, so that in the end an
> >implementation that fulfills all of the technical requirements can be
> >created, that hopefully leaves all parties satisfied.
> >
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> There is nothing wrong with the current code.

The current code is misconceived and I did go to great effort to
explain that in the 'devicetree' series.

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> It is Simon's concept of blobs in devicetrees that is borked in that it 
> ignores QEMU and any board that gets the DT from a prior boot stage.

That's because I was completely unaware of this strange back-door
approach. It would have helped a lot if someone had bothered to create
some documentation for the design. Then I would have seen the problem
immediately.

Anyway, it is now covered by the above series. The use of devicetree
in U-Boot is very clear, I think.

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> Simon's patches have no functional end. So what do you mean by "same 
> functional end"?

So, please, again, will someone apply the revert before the release
and people start relying on it.

Regards,
Simon

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