On 6/29/25 6:10 PM, Lucien.Jheng wrote:

Hi,

I'm sorry for my abysmally slow response.

+config PHY_AIROHA_FW_IN_MMC
+    bool "Airoha firmware in MMC partition"
+    help
+      Airoha PHYs use firmware which can be loaded automatically
+      from storage directly attached to the PHY, and then loaded
+      via MDIO commands by the boot loader. The firmware is loaded
+      from a file specified by the PHY_AIROHA_FW_PART,
+      PHY_AIROHA_FW_DM_FILEPATH and PHY_AIROHA_FW_DSP_FILEPATH options.
I ran into the same firmware loading problem recently. I took a different approach, have a look at [1] and specifically function rcar_gen4_pcie_load_firmware() . This invokes U-Boot shell script , which has to be defined by the user, and which loads the firmware by whatever means necessary, from whatever storage or location . I think that might be the generic approach to U-Boot firmware loading . If the user needs to change the firmware loading location, they do not need to rebuild the U-Boot itself, they simply update their environment and the matching script. What do you think ?

[1] https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/ patch/[email protected]/

Hi Marek

I've looked at the `rcar_gen4_pcie_load_firmware` API. As you mentioned, it allows users to set the storage and location from the U-Boot shell, meaning they don't need to recompile U-Boot.

Yes, that's the goal there.

However, I recently checked out `FS_LOADER` and realized it's essentially the same approach as how I'm currently placing firmware on eMMC, just with a unified API(request_firmware_into_buf).

I'm wondering if there's a future possibility to integrate U-Boot shell scripts into `FS_LOADER`?

I think it would be ideal to have one unified firmware loading code, so the answer to the "if" part of the question is "yes".

I have yet to think about the "how" part. If you want to give it a try, please do.

Also, given that the Kernel has a built-in firmware mechanism where files are compiled directly into the Kernel image, I'm curious if U-Boot might adopt a similar approach in the future. I'm also considering if `binman_sym` could be a viable alternative.

I'm not a lawyer. My understanding of this firmware bundling is, that this is a legal minefield which is better avoided, and also causes redistribution problems with prebuilt U-boot binaries. You end up bundling together GPL code (U-Boot) and non-GPL code (firmware blobs), and the final license of the result is unclear to me.

+CC Vagrant, since they have insight into this from Debian side.

For the short term, though, I'll go ahead and submit the EN8811H firmware loading method using the `rcar_gen4_pcie_load_firmware` approach. I'll then explore potential improvements later.
Please wait a bit for input from the others. Also keep in mind, that rcar_gen4_pcie_load_firmware() is non-generic interface specific to that one driver, you would have to implement something similar in this driver , with different variable names .

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