On 10/20/25 11:13, Yao Zi wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 01:33:11AM +0000, Yao Zi wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 07:04:48PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
On 10/16/25 18:58, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
Commit a681cfecb434 ("riscv: Add a Zalrsc-only alternative for
synchronization in start.S") changed the hart synchronization in start.S.
It uses CONFIG_IS_ENABLED(RISCV_ISA_ZAAMO) to determine which method to
use. If the macro evaluates to true the old behavior is maintained.

The macro evaluates to false for SPL builds which was unintended. Use
IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RISCV_ISA_ZAAMO) instead.

This fixes a boot failure on StarFive JH7110 based boards.

Fixes: a681cfecb434 ("riscv: Add a Zalrsc-only alternative for synchronization in 
start.S")
Reported-by: Emil Renner Berthing <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Heinrich Schuchardt <[email protected]>
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Hi Heinrich,

Thanks for sending the patch!


Hello Yao,

It would be worthwhile to understand why your new method does not work on
the StarFive VisionFive 2. I only addressed the Kconfig issue. But I suspect
there is something broken in the alternative pass.

A possible reason is that, on JH7110 not all the cores support LR/SC
instructions: the S7 small core always raises access exception for it
since the implementation of LR/SC requires data cache to present, while
S7 doesn't have one.

This is documented in SiFive U74-MC Core Complex Manual,

Load-reserved (LR) and store-conditional (SC) instructions are special
atomic instructions that are only supported in data cacheable regions.
As the S7 core does not have a data cache, the LR and SC instructions
will always generate a precise access exception.[1]

As S7 also takes part in the initial HART lottery, usage of LR/SC
instructions might just crash its boot process with exception.

However I could only confirm the idea days later when I have access to
a JH7110 board. Since earlier Tom has merged the patch[2] that reverts
the problematic commit, do you think it's better to wait for me to
confirm the cause and write v3 of the patch, instead of fixing it up
now? I'll carry your Co-developed-by tag in v3 if you're okay with this.

Hi Heinrich,

I finally got a JH7110 board on hand and could find out what happens
here. As stated in the U74-MC Core Complex Manual,

Load-reserved (LR) and store-conditional (SC) instructions are special
atomic instructions that are only supported in data cacheable regions.
As the S7 core does not have a data cache, the LR and SC instructions
will always generate a precise access exception.[1]

This is correct, and with my patch the S7 core does trigger an
exception when doing LR/SC stuff, but this alone isn't enough to break
the whole SPL booting process up without even a banner shown up.

With some hand-written assembly added, I found that not only the S7
core, but also the four U74 cores are trapped in exceptions as well.
This is because U-Boot SPL, including the available_harts_lock variable,
is loaded in 0x8000000, as pointed out by CONFIG_SPL_TEXT_BASE and
spl/u-boot-spl.sym. According to StarFive JH7110's manual[3], the region
is mapped to the L2 Loosely-Integrated Memory.

And the U74-MC Core Complex Manual again points out,

When cache ways are disabled, they are addressable in the L2
Loosely-Integrated Memory (L2 LIM) address space as described in the
U74-MC Core Complex memory map in Section 5.2. The L2 LIM is an
uncacheable port into unused L2 SRAM and provides deterministic
access time.

The L2 LIM region is uncachable, too. Since U74 and S7 could only
perform LR/SC instructions in cachable regions, the new LR/SC
implementation will always trigger an Load Access Fault exception, thus
doesn't work for JH7110.

Another simple patch[4] could confirm this, which just adds a simple
load-reserved operation on available_harts_lock in
arch/riscv/cpu/start.S, but still hangs the boot process on JH7110.

I've reviewed v2 of my patch again, and think besides the usage of
CONFIG_IS_ENALBED() which you just pointed out, there should be no logic
error. I'll probably send v3 of the patch carrying your fix along with
a new patch to explicitly disable RISCV_ISA_ZALRSC on JH7110 platforms,

Thanks again for sending the fix.

Best regards,
Yao Zi

Thank you for investigating

+CC Hal, Minda as JH7110 maintainers

Best regards

Heinrich


Best regards

Heinrich

Best regards,
Yao Zi

[1]: https://starfivetech.com/uploads/u74mc_core_complex_manual_21G1.pdf
(Chapter 3.6, Atomic Memory Operations)
[2]: 
https://lore.kernel.org/u-boot/[email protected]/

[3]: https://doc-en.rvspace.org/JH7110/TRM/JH7110_TRM/u74_memory_map.html
[4]: https://gist.github.com/ziyao233/75fc0e40956a19e4383ab360dd06c784

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