On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 07:05:27PM -0600, Bryan Brattlof wrote:
> On February 19, 2026 thus sayeth Francesco Dolcini:
> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 04:10:20PM +0530, Suhaas Joshi wrote:
> > > On 19:46-20260218, Bryan Brattlof wrote:
> > > > On February 18, 2026 thus sayeth Francesco Dolcini:
> > > > > Hello Suhaas,
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 07:59:20AM +0100, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 06:51:50PM +0530, Suhaas Joshi wrote:
> > > > > > > On 11:20-20260213, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2026 at 04:51:09PM +0530, Suhaas Joshi wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 11:11-20260211, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 11:50:14AM +0100, Francesco Dolcini 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 09, 2026 at 02:20:01PM -0600, Bryan Brattlof 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you mind copying a boot log to a pastebin for me? I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > thought I had one 
> > > > > > > > > > > > of these boards but I'm still digging around for it. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 0x80000000 should 
> > > > > > > > > > > > be where we load TFA now days unless some boards have 
> > > > > > > > > > > > opted out of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > letting U-Boot move it to the bottom of DRAM
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Here some more logs
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > https://gist.github.com/dolcini/aa4b669c6349cc6da1b9e7b19cf53fed
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > The files are named with the commit sha that is tested.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 02:56:46PM +0530, Suhaas Joshi 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Verdin boards are the only ones that are reporting this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > issue. Is it
> > > > > > > > > > > > alright if we revert only the two Verdin-specific 
> > > > > > > > > > > > commits, and let the
> > > > > > > > > > > > rest (TI and PhyCore ones) stay as they are? The 
> > > > > > > > > > > > patches are pretty
> > > > > > > > > > > > un-connected to each other.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Verdin AM62 should not have anything special, the code is 
> > > > > > > > > > > all there for
> > > > > > > > > > > everyone to see, including the defconfig, the DT and so 
> > > > > > > > > > > on, and the changes
> > > > > > > > > > > we are talking about to me are self contained withing the 
> > > > > > > > > > > SoC. Something
> > > > > > > > > > > is wrong, and we are not understanding what yet.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I just retested once more 42b3ee7fa524 and it just hung, 
> > > > > > > > > > > you never know
> > > > > > > > > > > if I did something wrong. And for what matter this was 
> > > > > > > > > > > spotted by our
> > > > > > > > > > > CI.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > We are working on figuring out why Verdin is seeing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > these issues, in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > meantime.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Anything I can do let me know.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > If it matter the board that I am currently testing has 
> > > > > > > > > > > 1GiB DDR RAM, and
> > > > > > > > > > > the SoC is a AM6252ATCGHAALW. 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I was able to trace the issue to the get_ram_size() in
> > > > > > > > > > verdin-am62.c:dram_init().
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > That function walks the addressable memory range to 
> > > > > > > > > > dynamically detect
> > > > > > > > > > how much memory is available.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Not sure on the proper way to fix it however, Bryan? Suhaas?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, this does seem to be the issue, even in my digging. I 
> > > > > > > > > have sent a
> > > > > > > > > patch to fix this. But since I don't have boards, I have not 
> > > > > > > > > tested
> > > > > > > > > this. Could you please test this and let us know if it works, 
> > > > > > > > > or if
> > > > > > > > > there are any other issues that pop up?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > With commit f9ffeec4bdcf ("board: toradex: Make A53 get RAM 
> > > > > > > > size from DT
> > > > > > > > in K3 boards") merged we had our CI running on our whole board 
> > > > > > > > farm
> > > > > > > > last night.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Good news: the issue is confirmed to be fixed on Verdin AM62P 
> > > > > > > > and Verdin
> > > > > > > > AM62 [Quad|Dual] with [1|2]GB RAM.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That's great!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Bad news: we we do still have a boot failure regression on 
> > > > > > > > Verdin AM62
> > > > > > > > single core with 512MB RAM. I have no idea if this is the same 
> > > > > > > > issue or
> > > > > > > > a different one, but from the logs it look different (despite 
> > > > > > > > that I
> > > > > > > > decided to keep using this email thread and not start a new 
> > > > > > > > one).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The failing board from the logs uses a AM6231ASGGHAALW SoC, 
> > > > > > > > maximum
> > > > > > > > frequency 1GHz, we also have another device failing, single 
> > > > > > > > core again,
> > > > > > > > with maximum frequency 800MHz, the working one have 1.4GHz max
> > > > > > > > frequency.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Worth noticing the errors
> > > > > > > >   Failed to set clock rates
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > These are new compared to the previous U-Boot release, it 
> > > > > > > > affects also
> > > > > > > > other boards, and I have no idea if this is related to this 
> > > > > > > > issue or not.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Logs of the failing device (U-Boot is commit 
> > > > > > > > f9ffeec4bdcf1da655a0ffea482062adde78fee8)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > U-Boot SPL 2026.04-rc2-0.0.0-devel+git.f9ffeec4bdcf (Feb 12 
> > > > > > > > 2026 - 14:12:09 +0000)
> > > > > > > > SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.9--v11.02.09 (Fancy 
> > > > > > > > Rat)')
> > > > > > > > Failed to set clock rates for '/a53@0': -22
> > > > > > > > SPL initial stack usage: 13456 bytes
> > > > > > > > Trying to boot from MMC1
> > > > > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > > > > Loading Environment from nowhere... OK
> > > > > > > > init_env from device 9 not supported!
> > > > > > > > Warning: Did not detect image signing certificate. Skipping 
> > > > > > > > authentication to prevent boot failure. This will fail on 
> > > > > > > > Security Enforcing(HS-SE) devices
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I don't think this one is related to the firewall series. Not 
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > sure what the issue is. Just to rule this series out -- could you 
> > > > > > > drop
> > > > > > > my patch(es) and check if this specific device boots?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Was this device booting earlier? Could it be a build misconfig, 
> > > > > > > since it
> > > > > > > says that it can't detect an image signing certificate?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is a regression with 2026.04. 2026.04-rc never booted on this 
> > > > > > device, and
> > > > > > before commit f9ffeec4bdcf1da655a0ffea482062adde78fee8 none of the 
> > > > > > verdin
> > > > > > am62[p] variants were booting for multiple bugs that were present 
> > > > > > in the
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 2026.01 is booting fine on this device, with plain vanilla U-Boot.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The issue is still there, and it seems again related with your 
> > > > > changes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can you help? Any test that I should do?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > v2026.01 booting fine
> > > > > =====================
> > > > > 
> > > > > U-Boot SPL 2026.01 (Feb 18 2026 - 12:12:15 +0100)
> > > > > SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
> > > > > Changed A53 CPU frequency to 800000000Hz (K grade) in DT
> > > > > SPL initial stack usage: 13512 bytes
> > > > > Trying to boot from MMC1
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Loading Environment from nowhere... OK
> > > > > init_env from device 9 not supported!
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Starting ATF on ARM64 core...
> > > > > 
> > > > > NOTICE:  BL31: v2.13.0(release):v2.13.0-259-ge0c4d3903b-dirty
> > > > > NOTICE:  BL31: Built : 07:01:36, Jul  1 2025
> > > > > 
> > > > > U-Boot SPL 2026.01 (Feb 18 2026 - 12:12:38 +0100)
> > > > > SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
> > > > > SPL initial stack usage: 2048 bytes
> > > > > Trying to boot from MMC1
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > U-Boot 2026.01 (Feb 18 2026 - 12:12:38 +0100)
> > > > > 
> > > > > SoC:   AM62X SR1.0 HS-FS
> > > > > Reset reason: POR
> > > > > DRAM:  512 MiB
> > > > > optee optee: OP-TEE: revision 4.7 (a9690ae39995af36)
> > > > > Core:  159 devices, 34 uclasses, devicetree: separate
> > > > > MMC:   mmc@fa10000: 0, mmc@fa00000: 1
> > > > > Loading Environment from MMC... Reading from MMC(0)... OK
> > > > > In:    serial@2800000
> > > > > Out:   serial@2800000
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2026.04, commit 3243a73102c3 ("Merge branch 'master' of
> > > > > https://source.denx.de/u-boot/custodians/u-boot-sh";), booting fine
> > > > > =================================================================
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > U-Boot SPL 2026.04-rc1-00199-g3243a73102c3 (Feb 18 2026 - 15:38:33 
> > > > > +0100)
> > > > > SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
> > > > > Failed to set clock rates for '/a53@0': -22
> > > > > SPL initial stack usage: 13512 bytes
> > > > > Trying to boot from MMC1
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Loading Environment from nowhere... OK
> > > > > init_env from device 9 not supported!
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Starting ATF on ARM64 core...
> > > > > 
> > > > > NOTICE:  BL31: v2.13.0(release):v2.13.0-259-ge0c4d3903b-dirty
> > > > > NOTICE:  BL31: Built : 07:01:36, Jul  1 2025
> > > > > 
> > > > > U-Boot SPL 2026.04-rc1-00199-g3243a73102c3 (Feb 18 2026 - 15:38:57 
> > > > > +0100)
> > > > > SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
> > > > > SPL initial stack usage: 2048 bytes
> > > > > Trying to boot from MMC1
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > U-Boot 2026.04-rc1-00199-g3243a73102c3 (Feb 18 2026 - 15:38:57 +0100)
> > > > > 
> > > > > SoC:   AM62X SR1.0 HS-FS
> > > > > Reset reason: POR
> > > > > DRAM:  512 MiB
> > > > > optee optee: OP-TEE: revision 4.7 (a9690ae39995af36)
> > > > > Core:  160 devices, 35 uclasses, devicetree: separate
> > > > > MMC:   mmc@fa10000: 0, mmc@fa00000: 1
> > > > > Loading Environment from MMC... Reading from MMC(0)... OK
> > > > > In:    serial@2800000
> > > > > Out:   serial@2800000
> > > > > Err:   serial@2800000
> > > > > Model: Toradex 0071 Verdin AM62 Solo 512MB V1.2A
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2026.04, current master, commit 8666b16015d4, NOT working
> > > > > =========================================================
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > U-Boot SPL 2026.04-rc2-00033-g8666b16015d4 (Feb 18 2026 - 15:05:31 
> > > > > +0100)
> > > > > SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
> > > > > Failed to set clock rates for '/a53@0': -22
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm It's interesting to see this start to fail. 
> > 
> > This is fixed with another patch, and I would confirm that this is
> > unrelated to the issue we are debugging here
> > 
> > > > > SPL initial stack usage: 13464 bytes
> > > > > Trying to boot from MMC1
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Loading Environment from nowhere... OK
> > > > > init_env from device 9 not supported!
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Authentication passed
> > > > > Starting ATF on ARM64 core...
> > > > > 
> > > > > NOTICE:  BL31: v2.13.0(release):v2.13.0-259-ge0c4d3903b-dirty
> > > > > NOTICE:  BL31: Built : 07:01:36, Jul  1 2025
> > > > > 
> > > > > U-Boot SPL 2026.04-rc2-00033-g8666b16015d4 (Feb 18 2026 - 15:05:54 
> > > > > +0100)
> > > > > SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm suspicious of the spl_enable_cache(). I've witnessed issues if we 
> > > > add MMU entries that are not backed by DRAM which can cause the MMU to 
> > > > crash the CPU.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I looked into that function.
> > > 
> > > This is my current theory:
> > > 
> > > The end address of 512MB RAM is 0x9FFFFFFF. This is the same as OPTEE's
> > > end address.
> > > 
> > > If you look into the `spl_enable_cache()` function, you'll see that it
> > > is subtracting the size of page tables from the top of RAM, i.e. it is
> > > placing the page table at the end of RAM, i.e. it is placing the page
> > > table in OPTEE's memory region. Since this region wasn't protected by
> > > firewalls earlier, everything worked. But now the firewall disallows
> > > U-Boot's access to the page table.
> > > 
> > > On 1GB and 2GB devices, there's a great deal of distance between the
> > > end addresses of RAM (0xBFFFFFFF and 0xFFFFFFFF respectively) and the
> > > end address of OPTEE. So we don't run into this issue.
> > > 
> > > Francesco -- Just to confirm if this indeed is the case, could you
> > > change CONFIG_K3_OPTEE_LOAD_ADDR to any other free location, and check
> > > if the device boots?
> > 
> > Any suggestion on a good address to use?
> > 
> > I tried 0x83800000, and the result is not booting in different ways,
> > failing in different ways
> 
> Ah so for our am62 SiP package (which also has 512MB of DDR) we ended up 
> moving OP-TEE down to 0x80080000[0] to let U-Boot relocate itself 
> without crashing into OPTEE or TFA
> 
> Because tiboot3.bin starts off the main domain by sending the A53 to  
> TFA -> OPTEE -> SPL there isn't a great way to pass along the info to 
> TFA on where to go next at run-time.
> 
> So for this to work we will need to adjust the jump defaults in both 
> TF-A and OP-TEE as well as modify the K3_OPTEE_LOAD_ADDR here.
> 
> We're doing this in yocto here[1][2]
> 
> [0] 
> https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-ti/tree/meta-ti-bsp/conf/machine/am62xxsip-evm.conf#n7
> [1] 
> https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-ti/tree/meta-ti-bsp/recipes-bsp/trusted-firmware-a/trusted-firmware-a-ti.inc#n29
> [2] 
> https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-ti/tree/meta-ti-bsp/recipes-security/optee/optee-os-ti-overrides.inc#n9
> 
> With that updated it should allow us to get past the TFA init

Some progress ...

I had to review also the U-Boot configuration, the whole memory map must
be revised ...

With that sometime it works ...

U-Boot SPL 2026.04-rc2-00038-g2d83c0fbbfed-dirty (Feb 20 2026 - 11:23:36 +0100)
SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
Set clock rates for '/a53@0', CPU: 800MHz at Speed Grade 'K'
SPL initial stack usage: 13464 bytes
Trying to boot from MMC1
Authentication passed
Authentication passed
Authentication passed
Loading Environment from nowhere... OK
init_env from device 9 not supported!
Authentication passed
Authentication passed
Starting ATF on ARM64 core...

NOTICE:  BL31: v2.13.0(release):v2.13.0-259-ge0c4d3903b38
NOTICE:  BL31: Built : 10:24:51, Feb 20 2026
I/TC:
I/TC: OP-TEE version: 4.9.0-34-g33919ffbd54a (gcc version 14.2.0 (Debian 
14.2.0-19)) #2 Fri Feb 20 09:27:46 UTC 2026 aarch64
I/TC: WARNING: This OP-TEE configuration might be insecure!
I/TC: WARNING: Please check 
https://optee.readthedocs.io/en/latest/architecture/porting_guidelines.html
I/TC: Primary CPU initializing
I/TC: GIC redistributor base address not provided
I/TC: Assuming default GIC group status and modifier
I/TC: SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
I/TC: HUK Initialized
I/TC: Disabling output console

U-Boot SPL 2026.04-rc2-00038-g2d83c0fbbfed-dirty (Feb 20 2026 - 11:23:59 +0100)
SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
SPL initial stack usage: 2048 bytes
Trying to boot from MMC1
Authentication passed
Authentication passed


U-Boot 2026.04-rc2-00038-g2d83c0fbbfed-dirty (Feb 20 2026 - 11:23:59 +0100)

SoC:   AM62X SR1.0 HS-FS
Reset reason: POR
DRAM:  512 MiB
optee optee: OP-TEE: revision 4.9 (33919ffbd54a7cea)
Core:  159 devices, 34 uclasses, devicetree: separate
MMC:   mmc@fa10000: 0, mmc@fa00000: 1
Loading Environment from MMC... Reading from MMC(0)... OK
In:    serial@2800000
Out:   serial@2800000
Err:   serial@2800000
Model: Toradex 0071 Verdin AM62 Solo 512MB V1.2A
Serial#: 15412819
Carrier: Toradex Verdin Development Board V1.1D, Serial# 10996055
Net:   am65_cpsw_nuss ethernet@8000000: K3 CPSW: nuss_ver: 0x6BA01103 cpsw_ver: 
0x6BA81103 ale_ver: 0x00290105 Ports:2
am65_cpsw_nuss_port ethernet@8000000port@1: RGMII mode without internal TX 
delay unsupported; please fix your Device Tree

Warning: ethernet@8000000port@1 MAC addresses don't match:
Address in ROM is               64:1c:10:2a:6d:c2
Address in environment is       00:14:2d:eb:2e:53
eth0: ethernet@8000000port@1 [PRIME]am65_cpsw_nuss_port ethernet@8000000port@2: 
RGMII mode without internal TX delay unsupported; please
 fix your Device Tree
, eth1: ethernet@8000000port@2
Hit any key to stop autoboot: 0
Verdin AM62 #


however, sometime it just crashes somewhere ...

Verdin AM62 # reset
resetting ...

U-Boot SPL 2026.04-rc2-00038-g2d83c0fbbfed-dirty (Feb 20 2026 - 11:23:36 +0100)
SYSFW ABI: 4.0 (firmware rev 0x000b '11.2.5--v11.02.05 (Fancy Rat)')
Set clock rates for '/a53@0', CPU: 800MHz at Speed Grade 'K'
SPL initial stack usage: 13464 bytes
Trying to boot from MMC1
Authentication passed
Authentication passed
Authentication passed
Loading Environment from nowhere... OK
init_env from device 9 not supported!
Warning: Did not detect image signing certificate. Skipping authentication to 
prevent boot failure. This will fail on Security Enforcing
(HS-SE) devices

It's quite a pain. I will review the complete memory map and check if I
missed something.

Bryan: I think TI should consider having both OP-TEE and TFA at the
beginning of the memory on any AM62* SOC by default, this would just be
the most robust way to have something working no matter the amount of
memory that is fitted.

Francesco

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