Jeff

In viewing older applications does not reflect the current status of the
database product.

I have an application written in Universe that has SQL table level security
as you would find in an Oracle database, it uses transaction control and
rollback recovery as you would find in an Oracle database, It hase SQL
access through ODBC and OLEDB, it interfaces with .Net, Web Services and
java is a future option.  There is little that is in Oracle and SQL Server
that is not available in Universe in some form.  But there is a lot in
UniVerse that is not in the other RDBMS's.
There is a variety of Object Oriented languages that can acces UniVerse, why
create a new one and I use BASIC for Business rules in the application which
is a lot more mature than some SQL Programming Language.    

What Dawn is raising is that there is a perceived basis that RDBMS is the
ideal solution and PICK is archaic.  The question is that if this is true,
why do the majority of conversions from PICK to an RDBMS lead to major
disasters and often the CEOs job and I have witnessed that frequently.  

I have worked with a variety of RDBMS over the years and I still believe
that todays PICK environment still has a lot of advantages over other RDBMS.
Database selection will be horse for courses and all the database have
specific advantages.  Whenever I recommend a solution to a customer I have
never done it because of my historical use, I do a proper review of other
products and have selected PICK for well justified commercial advantages
over other RDBMS. I do think we need to clean up some of the edges in
UniVerse that could be done better, but these are not a restriction of the
architecture but just R&D has not got around to doing it.

At the end of the day, the user group needs to legitamise the commercial
decision to go U2 not a technical argument.  I think this is what Dawn is
trying to identify in the question.  To me todays PICK is more in line with
todays Business Needs than RDBMS, the question is how to prove that feeling.
IF we can identify that direction then we can set a strategic marketing and
R&D direction for U2 that will make U2 a serious contender in the Database
market.

Regards to Gartner comments and other analysts.  The question is where do
they earn there living from and does that make them independent and
unbiased.  

Regards

David Jordan
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