Tony:

You make large assumptions:

1) Congressional lawmaking is rational
2) Laws passed don't have the opposite effect from intended
3) Those sponsoring laws have a clue what they're doing.

When it comes to Congress, the less they do the better.  :-)

Bill

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:30 PM
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> Subject: RE: [U2] [OT] Sarbanes-Oxley
>
>
> Gordon Glorfield wrote:
> > BTW My apologies to our non-USA list members as this is only
> > pertinent to US operations.  Sometimes I forget we are not all in the
> > USA.
>
> Actually Gordon, while the legal responsibilities of compliance with USA
> regulations only apply to USA companies, I can easily see initiatives for
> SOA compliance driving non-USA companies that do business with USA public
> companies.
>
> I'm no expert on the matter, but it seems to me that change will be (or
> should be) driven from the top-downward to ensure compliance, and
> that means
> vendors, partners, and even some customers of these public
> companies may be
> requested or mandated to make changes in IT and/or manual procedures.  So
> all of you foreigners and grinning private companies out there better look
> out.  ;)
>
> I've seen a couple comments here that tell me that some people have a
> different understanding of SOA than I do - I have no idea who's
> right.  I'm
> under the impression that SOA doesn't just mean approvals need to be
> recorded, but that much stricter auditing need to be done of any physical
> process or policy which affect the bottom line.  That means
> creating lots of
> cross-index files, periodic balancing of summary to detail, and
> some decent
> drill-down/reporting into all of this data.  When someone asks where that
> bottom line came from, it's management's neck on the line if they can't
> click a few times to show the detail.  The terms data warehouse,
> cube, ETL,
> and BI come to mind.  Which is what we/MV are very good at once
> we write the
> code.
>
> We'll see how far it goes when management types actually do their reading
> and then get serious.  I don't think we (consulting community and
> IT staff)
> have been asked by our clients/managers to make driving changes
> yet, simply
> because there are lot of CxO types still ignoring SOA or still trying to
> figure out how deep it really goes.  Perhaps the thing to do is to contact
> the CxO's with whom you have influence and ask them if there is
> anything you
> can or should be doing to help them get through this.
>
> I hope our resident expert, Susan Joslyn, can provide some insight.
>
> Tony
> Nebula R&D
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