The implication is that a degreed candidate is brighter, erudite and,
gol-dangit, more likely to get the job done. While we poor, slothful,
tongue-tied degree-less programmers, just have to make do with what we
have...
The problem lies in the inability of the employers to determine whether a
candidate would fit into the company prior to hiring. Want to know if a
candidate has breadth of knowledge, discuss their reading habits. Want to
know if a candidate will persevere talk to them about their work history.
I have know programmers with a BS, who couldn't put together an
intelligent sentence nor could they explain anything to a user. A few of
them could code, though..
On the other hand, I have been trying to come up with intelligent
sentences made up of two words... "Hi, there"? "Money Talks"?
Don't want to sound like I am jumping on you Gordon, I don't think you
really believe things are as black and white as the tone of your email
indicates. Degree prejudice is a hot button topic with me.
Take care,
Bruce
Bruce M Neylon
Health Care Management Group
Gordon Glorfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [OT] [U2] Technical Product Manager opening in Boston
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When an employer requires a degree, it's not the programming training
gotten
through the school that they are looking for. Rather it's the overall
education. I've known some brilliant programmers that could not put 2
words
together to form an intelligent sentence. Hand them a spec and they could
whip out some amazing code. Ask them to explain an issue to a user and
they
fail hopelessly.
Also, a degree implies a certain level of "stick-to-it-ness" or
perseverance. Meaning that the applicant has started and completed a
multi-year program of study. A goal was set and met. That is an
important
trait for some employers.
Gordon J. Glorfield
Sr. Applications Developer
MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
301-360-8839
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> Subject: RE: [U2] Technical Product Manager opening in Boston
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> I always wonder why people insist on a degree. Surely by the
> time you've got the experience to do a job like this the fact
> of whether you've got a degree or not is pretty irrelevant.
>
>
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> BS Degree required
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