I'd still go for a GUI editor - sure beats having to type in all of those spaces :-)

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  an Evolution in Software Development

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>One thing I miss from the Prime editor is overlay. All you had to do is
>space out to where you wanted to overly the text and overlay with the new
>characters. It was very useful when you  had a long string with several
>instances of the same type of information and you only wanted to change one
>area.
>Example:
>DATA = 'AAABBBCCCAAABBBCCCAAABBBCCC'
>                        O ZZZ
>DATA = 'AAABBBCCCAAABBBCCCZZZBBBCCC'
>Sure beat having to type the whole line or doing a long change.
>
>
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>From: "Warren, Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:24 PM
>Subject: RE: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
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>
>As a system administrator, my choice is to use vi for my UNIX/AIX duties,
>but I find it's quite a useful tool for program editing too.  In fact, I'm
>the only one in our shop that uses vi on a regular basis.  I still can't
>figure out why the remainder of our programming staff use AE.  I agree it
>has it's place for some tasks, but for day to day editing, I find vi easy
>to
>use, and it didn't take too long to get used to, when I learned it years
>ago.  The best part is that you'll find it on most flavors of UNIX boxes,
>and the basic commands stay the same. -Phil-
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Louis Guillaume [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:52 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
>
>
>Adrian Matthews wrote:
>> Does anyone actually use the editor for cutting code these days though?
>>
>
>Absolutely! From what I've seen, most folks who take the time to learn
>vi will never go back.
>
>The only thing AE is good for is macro-fixing savedlists of records,
>IMHO. It really astonishes me that folks continue to use AE for editing
>programs where you can really only look at one line at a time.
>
>> I've been using full screen GUI editors for years now. I think I'd pull
>> my hair out going back.
>
>GUI editors generally lack many of the vi features: use of regular
>expressions, superior cut and paste, multiple cut/paste buffers, the
>ability to read the output of external commands into the file, the
>ability to employ Unix shell utilities (like sed or awk) to edit the
>file etc etc.
>
>The only GUI editor I'd use for programming is vim! It is absolutely
>worth it to learn vi or vim for editing in UniData (and, I'm sure
>UniVerse too). If you're on Windows, there's Vim for Windows.
>
>I don't know much about UniVerse, but I can't imagine that an editor
>should make any difference as most editors should be available to either
>platform. On UniData just set the variable UDT_EDIT=/usr/local/bin/vim
>(or whatever your editor is) and voila.
>
>-- Louis
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