In a message dated 11/18/2004 5:25:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Bob Woodward" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>If the file has never been closed, just do a quick LIST on the file.  If
>FILE.USAGE is on then when you end the list, you'll at LEAST get some
>read hits on it.
>
>Bob Woodward

  If person A has the file open and person B does a list, is the updated 
information writen when person B ends her list?  Or when person A finally 
closes the file?  In other words, is the header information viewable, even 
though someone somewhere is still holding the file open?
Will


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Herbert
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:04 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes
>> 
>> Yeah. I said that in a previous email.  The question was simply is
>there a
>> way to determine if statistics are enabled and, without having to
>delve
>> into the file header, listing out the statistics using FILE.USAGE is
>the
>> only way to tell.   Of course, you are
>> correct that IF statistics collection HAS been enabled, yet the file
>has
>> NEVER been closed, thus no header updates have occurred.....
>> 
>> Ok. Tried this.  Statistics collection can definitely be determined
>using
>> the FILE.USAGE command.  If they are enabled, the listing will also
>> include
>> a line such as:
>> 
>> Statistics last reset <timestamp>
>> 
>> (Statistics last reset Thu Nov 18 17:06:33 2004)
>> 
>> IF this line does NOT appear, statistics collection is definitely OFF.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 04:22 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
>> >I don't think that's correct. I did some tests on this several years
>ago.
>> >If memory serves, when file usage is ON, counts are held in memory.
>They
>> >don't actually get written to the file header on disk until the file
>is
>> closed.
>> >
>> >Or am I mis-remembering again?
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Clif
>> >
>> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >W. Clifton Oliver, CCP
>> >CLIFTON OLIVER & ASSOCIATES
>> >Tel: +1 619 460 5678    Web: www.oliver.com
>> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >
>> >
>> >Glenn Herbert wrote:
>> >
>> >>I believe if you run FILE.USAGE <filename> and all values are zero,
>then
>> >>statistic collection is OFF.  You enable it using FILE.USAGE.CLEAR;
>> >>disable it using FILE.USAGE.OFF.
>> >>At 02:54 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Is there a way to tell if FILE.USAGE has been set to collect
>> information?
>> >>>-Dianne
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