And gee...

Would it have been financial fraud when as a QA manager at a retail banking
operation I discovered a bug where if you performed a transaction i.e.
withdrawal,  and then did not respond in the required time it timed out the
transaction even though it had already spit out your money yet never posted
it against your account?

Or report the double deposit that Chase just made to my account when they
obviously thought the ATM didn't record it and also processed it as a teller
transaction?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Joslyn
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [U2] Financial Fraud


Jeff,
That one is easy.
Requests for mods to the software must be documented and their justification
is part of the request.  Every SOX auditor I've come across has made this
mandate.

So in IT we have a methodology where we are responding to written requests
that have been through authorization channels before coming to us.

So -- without (necessarily) understanding the accounting or legal
implications of the task at hand, you can verify that the request came
through proper channels.

Everyone has their job definition -- you don't have to have knowledge or
expertise or fear outside of your realm of responsibility.  BUT BOY-GOLLY
make sure you are taking your own steps.

If it turns out you did something that you can't point to the audit of the
request and justification for WHY you did it -- well, then you may need your
lawyer.

Help put good procedures in place -- in the first place --  that make sense
and then don't let people bypass the rules (emergencies are part of the
rules, not an exception to them -- have established
emergency-justification-criteria and then established emergency procedures!)


<whoosh-clap> <sound of collapsible soapbox folding up>

Susan
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:08:46 -0500
From: "Lettau, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [U2]: Epicor

What if I make a change to the code in the system according to what the CFO
wants and then I get implicated as being an accomplice to fraud.
Can I pull my college credits where I failed accounting as being my defense?

Is it getting to the point where every change to the system requires a call
to a lawyer to check to see if it is ok?

Jeffrey Lettau
ERP Systems Manager
polkaudio
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