In a message dated 4/18/2005 4:07:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> >1. You have what I call the web for pick programmers products.  These
> are
> >tools that allow you to do the majority of the work in BASIC with the
> >product's IDE and they generate the web stuff for you.
> (Mvinternet/Web Wizard)

I think in this category you forgot the Coyote stuff from Doug Dimitru.
The interesting thing about this last product is that the majority of the 
programming is actually done in BASIC but in one persistent program.  So you 
write one single BASIC program that handles the users from the start of their 
session to the end, or rather you *could*.  But it, itself is not a persistent 
connection.
    I'm not exactly sure how he does that, but I believe it probably works by 
one main process manipulating lots of background phantoms.  One phantom for 
each web-session.  The phantoms, each having their own workspace, can maintain 
persistence in the variable-space, without a need for a persistent I/O 
interface, and without a need to try to persist variables as HIDDEN fields on 
the web 
pages.
   When the web user wants to do the next task, the main process sends the 
info to the phantom for that user and that phantom responds in however you've 
programmed it.  "When I enter the zip code look it up and display a Good and 
Bad 
message"
    The whole concept is completely different from any other Web-to-Pick 
provider I viewed at Spectrum.
Will Johnson
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