Hi JayJay, I have done this already at a client's site - just with their test environment - not the production environment of course. I just shut down the server and pulled the power plug - I used to call it PTP-Handling (Pull The Plug). Funny thing, when contacting the helpdesk to resolve the issue, they needed a 5 hours check on all systems to realise that there was something fishy with the machine itself. Nobody even bothered to ask the most simple question... But ok, this is more service... But while assessing their security, I was walking in and out at a computing center hosting application and data for about 300 city councils - doors were opened by friendly people, etc. nobody asked what I carried in my bags, nothing in terms of common sense in security. And managers told me that that building was a high security area. As I understood, it is not only the software or hardware. It is the 'brainware' of a number of people... Whatever we do to secure our applications as developers, architects, etc. - the common basics are never met... Common basics beyond IT... Cheers
BJ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 4:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [U2] Uniobjects hack (diverging into Outages I have known and loved) BJ Yes I think it's pretty tight . I am sort of assuming everyone uses ON.ERROR and ON.ABORT as a matter of course. (Otherwise they are obviously not worried about security and keep their credit card PINS in their wallets and leave them on the sidewalk. On a sort-of-spin-off point - I (used to/another hat) test & demonstrate RFS after I set it up and configured it for clients some years ago. - How do you do that? .... pull out the server power supply cable of course. It was AMAZING how unwilling people were to check everything worked. How Else? --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the intended recipient and may be privileged. If you have received this email inadvertently or you are not the intended recipient, you may not disseminate, distribute, copy or in any way rely on it. Further, you should notify the sender immediately and delete the email from your computer. Whilst we have taken precautions to alert us to the presence of computer viruses, we cannot guarantee that this email and any files transmitted with it are free from such viruses. ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
