Computer Based Training and in particular MV Education are topics close to
my heart.  It's a shame there's little or no interest from the community in
funding projects like this or I and many others would jump to create a ton
of material to help this market grow.  Unfortunately we need to eat too so
time needs to be spent on less altruistic endeavors.  If the U2 community
wants to change that because of a perceived need to create educational
materials for a new generation, let's discuss it.

Re PROF:  Might be better to use an opensource/freeware tutorial package
that's web-based.  Hundreds of those available and only one PROF.  It can
be a community project to create content even without knowing these
environments, and everything can be hosted at mvdevcentral.com which was
created for the purpose, or some site specific to MV education.  An
environment that's MV-platform neutral would allow all MV users to benefit,
rather than just U2 users.  (Which could be good or bad depending on how
competitive you are.)  Of course platform-specific nuances must be
available to the student who wants to focus.

Examples of some tutorial creation software follow (I just did some
searching, I have no experience with these tools whatsoever):
http://moodle.org/ - Moodle, popular CBT/CAI
http://web.uvic.ca/hrd/hotpot/ - HotPotatoes, generally for educators
http://www.linux-tutorial.info/Linkbat/ Linux Knowledge Base and Tutorial -
could be extended for MV/U2 as well as providing help to a worthy project
in its own right.
http://www.lib.sfu.ca/MOSST/ - Modular Online Software for Self-Paced
Tutorials
http://segue.middlebury.edu/index.php?action=site&site=segue - Segue allows
students to contribute material to the course and exchange info - very
collaborative.

There are also web environments that help manage the tutorial process so
that students have some interaction with professionals and other students
who are familiar with the same material.  One example is
http://www.interactlms.org/

If people agree that something MV-based is preferable, then rather than
trying to remember what PROF did then it might be better to just work up a
new set of requirements and design a project from scratch.  Again, this can
be done with a new project at mvDevCentral.  Tools like Ian Renfrew's
Jscript for U2 would be ideal to build a front-end for this, although that
is of course U2-specific at the moment.
(http://mvdevcentral.com/projects/js4u2/)  Just tossing out ideas...

If the community is really interested in this sort of thing I'd suggest we
get someone like Jon Sisk who's "platform neutral" and very focused on
education, and work out a way to compensate him to build this community
environment.  (Corporate contributions from MV vendors or VARs who are
interested in their own future, site advertising, subscriptions to web
tutorials, advance purchases of final products, general community
contributions, etc.)  I'd be happy to volunteer work with him on it to some
extent, and I dare say there would be others who would as well.

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD .com



CWNoah2-at-aol.com wrote:
> Ray,
> 
> I've been looking for the source code to PROF for years.
> I would like to acquire the rights to it, make it GPL,
> and bring it into the 21st century. If anyone finds it,
> please let me know. 
> 
> Regards,
> Charlie Noah

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Is PROF  still out there and, if so, can someone who
> knows advise how to get a legal  copy?
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