Well, until SOX, we did not separate them.  I always felt that combining 
the two functions was much more effective.  Using file resizing as an 
example, how would a programmer, who has been tasked with speeding up a 
particular process, be able to check for overflow?  If you are both a 
Database Admin and a Programmer, you can easily determine if the culprit 
is overflow, file type, indexing, bad code, whatever.  I agree however, 
there are some serious security and accountability issues here.

On another note, I'm really sorry to hear that overseas companies have to 
deal with SOX.  Or as I call it, "The Great Productivity Reduction Act of 
2002."

Charlie Rubeor 
Unix/Database Administrator 
Wiremold/Legrand 
60 Woodlawn Street
West Hartford, CT 06110
Tel: 860.233.6251 x3498
Fax: 860.523.3690
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet: www.wiremold.com



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/09/2005 09:27:50 AM:

> You mean you don't separate them?  Absolutely there needs to be a 
division 
> of labor here.  As a developer I have no time to keep up with mundane 
> tasks as password verification, file resizing and maintenance, upgrades, 

> etc...  That doesn't even touch on the security and accountability 
issues.
> 
> In a small shop (< 50 users) you might be able to get away with 
combining 
> the two roles.  But in any shop larger than that, I don't see how you 
> could effectively do both jobs.
> 
> 
> Gordon J. Glorfield
> Sr. Applications Developer
> MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
> 301-360-8839

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