On 12/19/05, Brutzman, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Aside from U2 Personal Edition, are there any multi-value products like
> say
> IBM's CloudScape that do multi-value?


Are you asking only about IBM products or are you asking for all databases
that permit multivalues?

I don't know the answer related to CloudScape, but I know you can use jdbc
to access it, and I think that SQL is the language of choice for access to
the Cloudscape data.  Some SQL-DBMS products have constructs for non-scalar
values in a cell or for parent-child relationships between tables, both of
which work for "multi-values."  However, if they are using SQL for access,
SQL-92 is what is used for ODBC and jdbc and is also the only easily ported
version of SQL across databases.  SQL-92 has no provisions for multivalues.
So, even if products like PostgreSQL permit child tables (and they do), you
could not take the same SQL statements and expect them to respond similarly
in Oracle or DB2.

As for non-IBM products, in addition to the many flavors of Pick, many
databases that might be marketed as "embedded" permit multivalues, such as
those from Sleepycat (Berkeley DB from Sleepycat is used extensively by
Google, for example).  Databases described as "object-oriented" or "XML
databases" also permit multivalues.  There are also flavors of Mumps,
including Cache'.

I'm interested in coming up with a name for all databases that 1) do not
require first normal form and 2) use only a two-valued, not 3VL logic.
MultiValue/Pick implementations are not the only products like that (even if
they are the best ;-).  I would guess that more data are stored in
non-SQL-DBMS products than SQL-DBMS/RDBMS products, yet they don't have the
market visibility.  I don't like describing them as "non-SQL-DBMS," and
"MultiValue" refers only to Pick.  I'm starting a blog (everyone with half a
mind to start one, does, eh?) and need to come up with a term for these, so
if anyone has an idea ...  Cheers!  --dawn

--Bill
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