Somebody out there has a product for sale which allows you to turn green-screen apps into gui apps with little to no effort. They still have a gs look, so the transition's easy for the user, but you get all the advantages of being able to do the standard editing in a gui input box, etc.
I can't remember what it's called or who puts it out, and I can't get to the web to research it right now ... but someone else should recognise what I'm talking about. -Keith ----Original Message---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc > Despite the progress made with conversions from green screen > to GUI, my > client base for example is virtually 100% green screen. I've > been adding a > few Accuterm GED programs but not to any huge extent. > > I believe that the providers should catch up with the times, > especially Raining Data and IBM. They should recognize that the > conversions from green > screen to GUI do not happen overnight and it is truly an > extremely large > undertaking to consider re-writing legacy code for a gui > interface. I'm not > talking about re-developing the apps, just trying to make > them a little more > modern. > > One client would like their legacy Order Entry app re-written in a GUI > interface. I'm truly afraid that my cost for this project will be > prohibitive and that it may never happen. Thus adds another > frustration. > > Nothing embarrasses me more than having to explain to a client's new > employee that they have to re-type the whole answer if they > spelled Apt 4B > instead of Apt 4A on a long address line. That tiny piece of > time starts off > their relationship on a tremendous backwards note. Granted we > know that the > apps are sophisticated underneath. But the employee's > shrugging shoulders > speaks volumes. > > Perhaps what I'm hearing is that RD & IBM will turn their back on this > concept and, like many things, it's in my hands. So I'll re-deploy my > GET.ANS() subroutine and try to tweak it for my different client's > environments. Most users are not cut & paste oriented. They > just want to get > to the end of 123 East South Street NW, Apt 4B and replace > the B with an A. > I don't blame them for condemming the application (and thus > the database) > with such a tired user interface. > > MS QuickBasic didn't provide any <Home><End><Del><Insert> > kind of INPUT > statement. It actually provided too many INPUT formats so I > had to write my > own. Fortunately there were no terminal emulations or other > 'environments', just DOS. Now, anyone programming with VB doesn't > concern > themselves one > bit with these shortcomings. It's part of the environment. > > My 2 cents. > Mark Johnson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc > > >> Mark, >> >> AFAIR UV does provide cursor driven input - see the Input > @, KeyEdit and > KeyTrap statements. It is however pretty horrible. >> >> You can't blame the vendors for this one though. The > problem has been the > mindset of a community that hasn't shared code (how many > virtually identical > menu runners or input subroutines have I seen over the years) > even though > the runtime binding model of external subroutines makes it so easy... >> >> I doubt the vendors would be interested in extending a 20 > year old text > interface when you can download the free VB 2005 Express, > UO.Net and do it > all properly ... >> >> >> Brian >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Mark Johnson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: >> 19/12/05 05:25:10 To: "u2-usChis case MS got it right. Every >> input > behaves very much > like every other >> with the special keys. >> >> I believe that this should be accomplished by the providers >> themselves, ie Raining Data and IBM in their future releases. >> They > already interpet > the >> TERM setting and it would remove the differences. I > took my GET.ANS > and >> tried to fit it on Accuterm and couldn't get the proper >> backspace. ------- u2-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
