Walter,

There is a real gap in information for newcomers at the moment, but it is 
something this user group is trying hard to repair. We have a number of 
projects going on to make this level of information (design, best practice, 
howto-type information) available to the public. 

I know this doesn't help you now, but please be sure that you can always post 
questions here and get a response. You're among friends...

First step - download the personal edition from the IBM web site. Get the 
version for Windows - it's easier to set up. 

You can also download all of the UniVerse docs from the IBM website: they're 
all written with experienced developers in mind :-( but the system description 
guide gives a flavor of what is involved, though bear in mind that it was 
written a long time ago and has a very primitive outlook on what the technology 
can do. 

I would then go straight to the UniObjects manual to see how to use UniVerse in 
a client/server environment: that's much more fun AND the API used provides a 
nice abstraction of the database that is more approachable and quite helpful 
for newbies to learn.  


Brian


> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Vaughan
>Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:34 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [U2] Newbies need love too
>
>We are looking extremely hard at moving our company to an MRP/DM
>vertical 
>solution written to run on the UniVerse platform. Our internal staff has
>dozens 
>of years experience with filePro, mySQL, PHP, perl... yet we have no
>experience 
>among the four of us working with UniVerse or any MultiValued/Pick DBMS.
>
>The whole concept doesn't scare us since it appears to be a mashing
>together of 
>a lot of concepts that we already are familiar with.
>
>HOWEVER.
>
>What about the newbies? Don't we get any love? I have went through every
>google 
>term I could think of to come up with a simple "This is how you get
>started with 
>a UniVerse". I have installed the personal editions and have the server
>running, 
>but I have no clue as to really creating a database, defining a table,
>inserting 
>data into a record, retrieving data from a record, and applying business
>logic 
>to fields.
>
>Is there not a "UniVerse for Dummies" website? Our sales rep asked his 
>programmer and he said, "I learned it 20 years ago, I don't know how you
>would 
>learn it today."
>
>I have 23 and 28 year old programers that will have to live with this
>solution 
>for the next 20 years. They're bright, but in order to get them excited
>about 
>this platform I need to let them experiment.
>
>Any website pointers will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Walter Vaughan
>Vice President
>Steele Rubber Products, Inc.
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