Dave,
As a founding father(?) I have to point out that the U2-Users list,
U2-Community list, SBSolutions list, and RBSolutions lists aren't
exactly part of the U2UG. Here's the real facts, just so all are clear:
Mike O'Rear ran the list for eight years, on his dime and with his
time. When he got tired, the list passed to Clif Oliver. Clif ran it for
nine years. Clif offered the lists (Users & Community) to the U2UG to
oversee. We don't *own* them, we mind the store on behalf of everyone.
For the U2UG to run the lists, we needed help. Fortunately, Larry
Hiscock stepped up.
SBSolutions started with Kevin King. He, like Clif, entrusted us to
mind the store. RBSolutions started with Scott Rau. When Scott's work
situation changed, he asked us to mind the store. Larry hosts both of
these lists as well.
The U2UG doesn't own any of these lists. We are the chosen
caretakers. Having said all that, there is a move within the board to
form a 'what next' committee. It is possible that what's next will be
identical to 'what's now' but it may well go in other directions. Just
remember that Larry and I moderate the lists as a volunteer activity.
*Separately* from that I also happen to be on the U2UG board - also
volunteer. We will do the best we can with the time and tools available.
The lists are free (as in liberty) and free (as in beer). Hosting and
managing them is free (as in free of payment). So long as it is
appreciated, I don't mind putting in the time and I *want* your
feedback. this topic started because *I* asked. So, let's keep a good
face on it and see if we can't guide the list through another few
decades of productive use.
- Chuck "History Books" Barouch
Dave Tabor wrote:
Hi,
Referring to the U2UG Charter:
Bullet #7 --> "To provide a forum for the promotion of excellence in information
processing through recognition of individuals who exemplify the best in our profession in
their work utilizing the U2 product line."
My thoughts: It would seem to me that the promotion of excellence will not
happen, when the provided 'excellence' is in the form of replies to specific
users (Reply-To), and remains hidden from the rest of the group (Reply-To-All).
--- also ---
Bullet #8 --> "To promote the exchange of technical information among U2 users."
In my opinion, the exchange of technical information is being exchanged via roadblocks and hidden alleys.
--- In conclusion ---
I've gotten a lot of great ideas from this list, and am saddened at the fact
that I (along with many other newbies) won't see a lot of those, due to people
with busy schedules forgetting to click the right button. CHANGE IT BACK,
PLEASE!!!
--- Questions for the moderators/board ---
1) Did our 'founding fathers' really want it run the way it is currently being
run?
2) Shouldn't the current format require the board to do a U2UG Charter rewrite?
Thanks for allowing the thoughts of someone who actually learns from the posts
on this list!
- Dave
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