Clif, my wife and I manage 'for free' over 100 email lists with nearly 5000 members spread throughout. As each list ebbs and flows, we find the Reply-To = $LIST setting is absolutely necessary to keep the list alive. But, for some very busy lists that couldn't be divided in a logical manner, we've had to set Reply-To = $SENDER. Yes, we use Majordomo (1.94.5). Those lists are our least popular. It's just the way of 'help-me' lists.
If I didn't spend so much time with my wife's lists, I'd love to volunteer to help with u2-users. So, I very much appreciate your post and just wanted to tell you 'Thanks' for speaking for me, too. Karl <quote who="Clifton Oliver"> > I ought to know. I've been guilty of it enough times. > > First, this is not a direct reply to the poster of this quote. I > merely chose this out of several that had this, "If you weren't so > stupid you would..." tone to them. > > That being said, I'm going to jump in and defend those experienced, > professional, over-worked, computer professionals who bother to > participate in a list like this while they have bosses, users, and > customers screaming at them that, "THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END! > What? Oh. No. I didn't select a printer. Never mind." > > It is not about physical effort. It is not about intelligence. It is > about usability. And frankly, I am appalled at the number of posts I > see from "so called computer professionals" professing that "you, > moron, ought to be smart enough to click the correct button, idiot." > > I really pity the users who are victimized by your attitudes. > > When I hosted the lists, the majority of the misdirected, posted from > the wrong address, etc., posts were from .EDU domains. Even I, big > mouth that I am, didn't leap to the claim that .EDU was a sub- > standard domain space. <sheesh!> > > If a number of people have a problem with usability, it is a problem > with usability. Period. It is not about the intelligence of the > users, regardless of their job function. It is not about the > intelligence of the list moderator(s). It is not about the > intelligence of the list host, who DOES THIS FOR FREE. (Always a hot > button of mine.) > > I happen to disagree with the current list configuration. And it has > been taken up with the Board of U2UG. But to castigate people is > simply, "Bad form, eh? Bad form." > > And the next time someone insults me indirectly about my inability to > click the right button on an e-mail reply, I'll check the timestamp > to see if they are posting from work, with enough time on their hands > to dick around with list mail, or if they are spending their time at > night doing it because they really care. > > > -- > > Regards, > > Clif > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > W. Clifton Oliver, CCP > CLIFTON OLIVER & ASSOCIATES > Tel: +1 619 460 5678 Web: www.oliver.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > On Apr 12, 2006, at 8:51 AM, wrote: > >> I find it amusing that a news list will starve because a bunch of >> computer proffesionals can't change behavior and move the mouse 1 inch >> to the right to do a 'reply to all' > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ ____________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ____________ _-\<._ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ ...................... _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IT Director, ATS Industrial Supply, Inc. http://www.atsindustrial.com Toll-free: 800-789-9300 x29 Direct2Desk: 801-978-4429 Facsimile: 801-972-3888 -- ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
