Thanks Diane. It is a data issue... but also a programming challenge as
well. It sounds like your environment has had standards in place that make
it easy to live in the "Upper/lower case world", but this isn't the case
with many applications, nor with a lot of legacy software and/or data. And
it's really a challenge to implement this type of standard "mid-stream".

As for the searching I was talking about, it was using the verb SEARCH -
where you search across an entire file - not just attributes - so, although
the dictionaries are great for one field searching - that's a different
animal.

On the same note, anyone gotten "yelled at" from a blackberry lately? On
these "hand-held" units, (phones, etc), living in the "upper/lower case
world" is, well, not really practical. And I get emails - in all upper case
- from these devices all the time. But, boy, the possibilities of being able
to take these devices into use as "remote data entry" devices are really
intriguing - aren't they? 

Laura
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Isn't that really more of a data issue though, rather than a programming
issue? 
I absolutely believe that data should be stored in U/L case, but that
doesn't
affect the programming at all.  For searching on this data, we just use
dictionaries that put it in all upper case - very easy to search on.
-Dianne


Quoting Laura Hirsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for
> anyone - is "much worse than that".
> 
> Besides the "internal" back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what
> case should be "current", I think that a bigger issue revolves around data
> presentation and converting to a "modern" display and "modern" usage.
> 
> For example, reports, mailing labels, "Dear John" letters... I mean, as a
> programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but,
> still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is
> almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a "state
of
> the art" letter addressed to "Mark Jones Iii".
> 
> SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure
> out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does,
> and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string?
> "MARK JONES" then "Mark Jones" then "Mark jones" then "mark jones".
> 
> BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same
> thing - at least in our business environment.
> 
> I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all
the
> time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program
> 
> That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the "cent" character... it used to
be
> there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that
didn't
> allow lower case)
> 
> Laura
> 
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> Subject: Re: [U2] Upper Case Only
> 
> One reason for why the upper case only thing started that has been
mentioned
> in this thread is that some early terminals didn't have lower case.
> 
> This is indeed true but it used to be much worse than that !
> 
> 
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