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You can actually access the data via C# quite easily. They provide utilities to create Proxy classes that work very nicely. This is definitley a forward thinking company. Cache also provides native web and web service support. CSP, or Cacher Server Pages ( I think ). Thanks, Nick Cipollina ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Baker Hughes Sent: Mon 4/16/2007 4:47 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache If you don't want to use their own 'Zen' object stuff, can you use whatever you want? C#, VB, Java ? How does it like ODBC, ADO or other methods of getting to the Cache data? We've all had our days hemmed into a proprietary environment. I hope I'm wrong for the sake of my comrades like Dawn, but I haven't heard anything to make me think otherwise, but that your development efforts will be dependent on that 1 company, and tied to their survival. Just some questions: If it's so good then what vertical apps are porting to it? (from MV or RDMS spaces) Why are they going after the MV market so strongly ? After you've written your killer app, and the buyer wants a different db, what are your options? (can you do a [somewhat] simple data/dict conversion and take it to some *other* MV database? Have you seen any dollar figures on their R&D investment, compared to other 2NF db providers? -Baker -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:36 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] U2 / Cache I should perhaps put this on the U2C list, but I'll second some of Tony's impressions of Cache'. I am starting a new venture (adventure) and have selected Cache', using their MV tools as well as their AJAX tools, for the platform. In my case, I have done a few talks here and there in the past couple of years, with my primary focus in two areas: MV and AJAX. It was shocking and delightful to see that there was a company spending a large amount of its R&D dollars on two primary projects during this time: MultiValue implementation and AJAX integration. So, I had to take a look. Their MUMPS technology (with objects added, just as they added object features to MultiValue BASIC) is renamed Cache' Object Script. It is at least as unimpressive at first glance to a non-MUMPS developer as Pick might be to a non-Pick developer. But they set up the MV implementation so that, in theory (I'm guessing there are exceptions), anywhere that you can write MUMPS code, you can now write DataBASIC (Cache' MultiValue BASIC). Very cool. Cache' classes can be developed, looking similar to Java and other object languages, that generate MultiValue dictionaries. These classes then work with the rest of their AJAX implementation (named Zen). Any Cache' class with methods in it can have those methods written in MultiValue BASIC. As a sometimes Java developer, it is pretty interesting to see this blend of OOP and MV. Feel free to ask me any questions about the product or my decision on this, if desired, especially as we get into more hands-on with the product this summer (the devil is in the details and all). Of course, there will always be a place in my heart for U2, but I had to make the best decision for the new software we will be building and InterSystems with their Cache' offering that now includes MultiValue just "feels" more like the future, with their 24-7 approach, scalability etc. There was really good energy at the conference and in discussions with key Intersystems folks. I like the U2 group too, but they do not have the same level of corporate-wide backing for their MV product that Cache' has, so the innovations are not in the same place either. Cheers! --dawn -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ This is a message from the MailScanner E-Mail Virus Protection Service ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The original e-mail attachment "winmail.dat" was believed to be infected by a virus and has been replaced by this warning message. If you wish to receive a copy of the *infected* attachment, please e-mail helpdesk and include the whole of this message in your request. Alternatively, you can call them, with the contents of this message to hand when you call. At Mon Apr 16 16:31:50 2007 the virus scanner said: Could not parse Outlook Rich Text attachment Note to Help Desk: Look on the AngelicHost MailScanner in /home/virtual/site2/fst/var/spool/mail.quarantine/20070416 (message l3GNVmeW024709). -- Postmaster MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support ------- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
