Thanks Jerry. After I was told a coupla times that u2-users was for specifically technical questions and I was doing more research on the data model, I switched to hanging out and asking questions on comp.databases.pick, with an occasional post here. For a while after the list moved, I couldn't post (computers!). But I lurk on occasion and now that I'm wrapping up some projects and ready to start others, I thought I'd check in again.
Good catch on the 1965 visionary approach to the software. It is interesting how those who have always been in the Pick world have no visions of card decks that have been dropped and other such horrors. I started in this profession in the late '70's on Pr1me computers which prided themselves in how you wrote applications that were entirely interactive, with no card decks. Then I went to the IBM COBOL CICS world in the early 80's and put that JCL (job control language) on those card decks for the operators to run. Yes, Don Nelson was the visionary related to the Pick industry. He was apparently a student of F. George Steele (IIRC). --dawn P.S. I suspect this response should be on U2C, but heigh ho (with a nod to Vonnegut) -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today On 4/18/07, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dawn, Nice to see you're back we haven't heard from you for awhile. Another interesting thing that Don Nelson had in his paper you mention below is, "... this specification is designed for a communication network of many remote stations and a single computer." What does that sound like to you? 1965? Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Wolthuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Spam:Re: Spam:RE: [U2] U2 / mv.net > Cache' is the evolution of MUMPS and now also some of the evolution of > Pick. For timing, Don Nelson designed the query language in the early > to mid 60's where the MUMPS designer worked in the mid to late 60's, > so MUMPS lags slightly behind, but both were there before Codd's paper > on relations. > > By the way, if you look at the first of Don Nelson's papers that you > can get to from > http://www.tincat-group.com/mewsings/2006/02/list-of-girls.html you > will see that he uses the term relation in a 1965 paper. I thought > that was very interesting. --dawn > > -- > Dawn M. Wolthuis > Tincat Group, Inc. tincat-group.com > > Take and give some delight today > > > On 4/16/07, Norman Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Cache isn't exactly putting a new face on an old product. >> > The inverse is probably the truth here. They are putting an >> > old face (PICK Basic) on a new (sort of) product, Cache. >> >> I thought Cache was the descendant of MUMPS. If so, it is at least as >> old as Pick. >> >> =========================================================== >> Norman Morgan <> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> http://www.brake.com >> =========================================================== >> A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand. >> ===========================================================
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