I think the point here Tony is that many people use u2 as their server and
don't want to outsource processing to another piece (i.e. .net to connect to
the webservice) I too have written many a web service in .net but still
often use the callhttp api to connect to third party web services from
within databasic, my data server is linux so why would I bring another piece
into play ? - as someone else on this list has said a few times, (and I know
this isn't very SOA) the more pieces there are in an app the more likely
there is to be a breakage, the more complex it is to deploy etc ... - also -
lets be honest now - In databasic its only ten lines of code to parse out
what you want from a soap envelope - the u2 http, soap and xml routines are
fairly simple and easy to use.

Gerry - I usually just stick to the http routines, mainly because the soap
routines do not handle https, + I have been coding http stuff for years in
various languages so don't think the soap api gives much more - as you have
worked out for yourself ;)

Rgds
Symeon.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry-u2ug
Sent: 02 June 2007 15:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [U2] SOAP API [ad]

Thanks Tony, but ...

the web services we use are .NET, the HelloWorld example I used took
less than minutes to setup.  We also have inbound and outbound web
services that use UO.NET.  I'm not sure why we would want to pay for an
additional framework for such a simple thing.  Currently 90% of this
system still runs 'green-screen' and as such, things are often driven
from within uv - mv.NET may have its place in a system that runs 90% via
external client apps, however this isn't one of those cases.

Universe in general provides almost everything we need to do what we
currently want to do, the implementation is often bizarre and incomplete
and severely lacking in usable documentation & working samples, but with
a little divination ( sometimes more ) it can be figured out.  Hence my
posting here.

As for my question, I am leaning toward just sticking to callHttp rather
than fighting with the SOAP API - but the jury is still out for another
day or so.

Gerry


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: June 1, 2007 4:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [U2] SOAP API [ad]

Gerry, the .NET framework has all of this building and parsing built-in,
as
well as auto-generation of web service clients and servers.  With UO.NET
or
mv.NET you can create a front-end to your app with absolutely no concern
for XML or SOAP envelopes.  You can get your HelloWorld function within
minutes.

mv.NET uses UO.NET as a raw data pipe.  Think of mv.NET as a suite of
libraries that make development much easier for many purposes.  For your
purposes you don't need mv.NET, but I encourage you to consider mv.NET
as a
superset over UO that will save time with a lot of projects.  For
example,
mv.NET faciliates both inbound and outbound web services.

Email me for an mv.NET FAQ, which includes pricing info and a link to
download documentation and a free trial of the software.  Nebula R&D is
a
worldwide distributor of mv.NET, providing installation assistance,
product
support, and development and training services for .NET and mv.NET.
Code
samples provided by Nebula R&D include ADO.NET, ASP.NET, and Web
Services,
using VB.NET and C# for side-by-side comparison.

HTH
Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG @ removethispartNebula-RnD.com


gerry wrote:
> We have some older code that works with a web service via the CallHttp
> API.
> I am looking at some newer things and decided to look into using the
> SOAP API instead of CallHttp mainly because I assumed that the SOAP
> API would make things 'cleaner' in particular when accessing the
> returned data.
> However as far as I can tell, it has actually makes it messier.
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