Aside from the historical rambling, your question on LOCATE can be easily
answered tenfold by the persons on this forum.

Mark Johnson
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> I resemble that comment (Pick Aware 2003).
>
> As a side note:  Early in our test/evaluation, our software vendor
> salesperson had said that the database system used by the application was
> "Informix".
>
> "Oh Yeah, that sounds familiar. I took some sailing classes in the San
> Francisco Bay with a gal that worked at Informix."
>
> So needless to say that I spent about 3 months on the IIUG.org list-serv.
I
> even hired a "Informix" consultant to help get our Web application hooked
up
> to our new application software's database via ODBC.
>
> After about 3 hours of mucking about on our system, the consultant
reported
> back that:
> "In an attempt to assess the Informix installation I looked around
> on the machine for the location of the normal Informix tools and
> configurations.  I found none of them.  I called Mr. Smith and he ran me
> though some of his standard commands and locations that he uses with the
> application.  This was when I found a Universe system, which has an
Informix
> copyright but I was unfamiliar with the product.  I made several phone
calls
> and did some investigations and got understand the basis of the product.
>
> Universe is a tool acquired when Informix obtained (I believe)
> DataStage from a third party.  Universe is its own database system based
> upon the Pick Database system.  Universe is a flat file pseudo relational
> database system but allows multi-values within fields.  Universe does
allow
> ODBC and JDBC connections but certain field types require some translation
> to be correctly transferred.  Universe does not follow any of the standard
> Informix conventions and does not use the same configuration files and
> Charles McMurray should seek out a Universe Consultant to help with their
> ODBC problem.  IBM did acquire all the rights to Universe with the
purchase
> of Informix and does state that it supports Universe."
>
> So I say to myself what the heck is Universe? So what is a newbie to do?
> But, Google it - which leads to some guy Cliff Olivier and sites in
> Australia.
> I get in touch with Janet Oswald and some of her group. And finally I
found
> this fledging users group u2ug.org that was just getting going and the
rest
> is history. About one month later I got hooked up with a group out of Los
> Angeles [AdvancedWare] that saved the day, in getting us technical
> training(Unix, MV, Universe, DICT, I-desc...., getting the ODBC hooked up,
> etc..).
>
> About a year later after numerous pleadings, demands, etc .., we got
> technical training on our Eclipse Enterpise Software application. Those
> Intuit-Eclipse software developers think they are guarding the Crown
Jewels
> (or are southern border patrol .. I got in anyway .. Amigos). They are
more
> of an impedment than help. It is a great system they wrote and works
really
> well. But, since it was originally written by some hackers in a garage, I
> guess they do not have any documentation on the system (dig.. Dig...
prove
> my wrong Denver Dudes).
>
> Ok so now I have about 4 years on U2 and still trying to get to know the
> difference in LOCATE x in MV    vs   LOCATE x in MV<1,1> returns what?
> I think I have figured out how to read an product item that is on
backorder
> from the convoluted MV design on the order entry system.
>
> -------- Probably this is the same path followed by many U2  newbies.  --
I
> hope not ----
>
> Garry L. Smith
> Dir Info Systems
> Charles McMurray Company
> V# 559-292-5782   F# 559-346-6169
>
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> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Charles Barouch
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [U2] [AD] UniVerse Programmer needed in New Jersey
>
> Ron,
>    Actually, I train new programmers. The problem is that most new people
> don;t know there's a community, so we don't meet them. There's actually a
> lot of new blood. We just have to find them and invite them inside.
>
>     - Chuck
>
> Ron Hutchings wrote:
> >    Has anyone actually run across someone with only 1-5 years
experience?
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