I find that MASTER OFF ALL at TCL in the UV account works really well and cleanly.
We kick all users off at midnight in order to stop the UV services so we can cleanly split off a 3rd level mirror for backup. I have scripted a MASTER OFF ALL, followed by a double check via tasklist (UV 10.1.18 on Windows 2003) for any hangers on. They get sorted out with a kill. Andy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norman Morgan Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2007 8:40 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 So, what is the best way to log users off cleanly in mass? You certainly can't depend on users to log off for themselves. Asking, begging, threatening....none of that works. I know for certain if I log in at 03:00, there will be 15 to 20 users still logged in, even though the building has been empty for hours. =========================================================== Norman Morgan <> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> http://www.brake.com =========================================================== Sometimes I wake up grumpy. Other times I let her sleep. =========================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy > Snyder > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 > > > The only way to guarantee business level data integrity in > non-transactional > > applications is to force all users off the system briefly > while you do > steps > > 1 - 3. > > That's a good point. However, it's important to have a controlled way > to do so. I've had people think they were safe to just log everybody > off. Of course, there's no way to ensure you're not doing *that* in > the middle of a transaction. ;-) > > Much worse, I've even had people with good intentions of getting > everybody off of the system so they could have stable backups. How > did they do it? > With stopud -f or by doing a kill -9 on each user. Either one could > create a mess at least as bad as backing up hot, since processes are > not terminated cleanly. Actually, the mess could be worse with the > unconditional kill methods, since they could result in corruption of > the live database files, while backing up hot only impacts the backup > copy. > And if you do that while running RFS, head for the hills. > > Tim Snyder > Consulting I/T Specialist > U2 Lab Services > Information Management, IBM Software Group > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
