the voc simply vanishes (both DATA and DICT)- as if a DELETE.FILE were done 

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dennis bartlett
Sent: 29 December 2008 09:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [U2] File Delete Logging UV

If the deleting process was acting on the &UFD& file, it could quite happily
delete the VOC file, and it would appear as if the file had been deleted via
the operating system as the usual Universe etc links would still exist.

I don't think a VOC trigger would be enacted if the &UFD& entry was deleted.

Does the file simply vanish, ie there is nothing present at O/S level, or is
the VOC file simply replaced with a previous version? A write to the &UFD&
file would achieve a replacement, I don't know if the trigger on the VOC
file would fire.. and a simple copy statement to &UFD& would achieve that
write..

A possible way would be to poll the &UFD& file with a process during the day
/ time period and observe when it occurs. One process where this would be
regularly done is in a program running a "menu system" . Alternatively, if
the VOC entry is important, one could write it back into the VOC regularly
during the day... just as an interim measure whilst you search the galaxy
for what will turn out to be a simple answer ;-)



2008/12/29 Scott Ballinger <[email protected]>

> Um, is it the VOC file that is disappearing, or an item in the VOC file?
>
> /Scott Ballinger
> Pareto Corporation
> Edmonds WA USA
> 206 713 6006
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Jeff Butera <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > <quote who='Israel, John R.' date='Monday 29 December 2008'>
> > > Put a DELETE trigger on the VOC file and in the code, specifically
test
> > for
> > > just the VOC item that keeps getting deleted (i.e. ignore any others).
> > > When you get a hit, immediately send your self an E-mail with all the
> > info
> > > in question.
> > >
> > > Remember that triggers must be globally cataloged, but that they can
> call
> > > locally cataloged programs (thus you can have differences between
> > accounts
> > > by having the subsequent subroutines different between accounts).
> > >
> > > I hope this helps.
> >
> > I was thinking the same thing, but this doesn't address the issue if
> > there's
> > an O/S process that's deleting the VOC outside of uv.  If the process
> > deleting your VOC is outside of uv, it may be harder to identify.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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