Hey -- Is this your way of volunteering to help?   Sweet!  Drop Baker your
information so we can get you set up!

The project, being 100% volunteer, has been through LOTS of hands. If you'd
like to help, you can then criticize the heck out of it.

And if you don't want to help, then let your issues be known WITHOUT
editorial.  Is that so much to ask?

There are probably LOTS of implementation issues on getting this out the
door -- This is a VOLUNTEER project -- the work was started in Australia,
loose ends as found updated from the U.S. on a server based in Europe - And
we're on a machine that is 'under-licensed' for the onslaught of people
curious to see what's behind the flap once it was tossed out there - there
really wasn't a way to do a 'follow the sun' release announcement to limit
the risk to running out of seats on a machine that will normally have 3
people a day touch it!  I'm guessing many of the issues being seen are from
too many people online at once. There WILL be issues for the first few
weeks/months.  Sorry about reality being such a bitch...

REMEMBER -- This is volunteer work being done to make the world a better
place for everyone... Cut some slack for those people so they have incentive
to keep working on it.

Or at least man up (person up?) enough to post your name if you're going to
post a bitch!  I'm not part of this project directly, but it really irks me
when people who won't even sign their name criticize things they were 'too
busy' (lazy?) to help with.  This is like voting -- either be part of the
process or shut the heck up!

They need the feedback on what is not working correctly so it can be fixed.
The editorials... Not so much.

If that steps on any toes, I'm equally as sorry as I'm sure this poster was.
;-)

And that is my two cents.  Returning you now to your regularly scheduled
non-flame-related list...

And really folks -- give it a week or two to settle down.  Send any 'found
issues' or 'connection problems' to the group so they can be reviewed -- if
possible, include the time (and your TimeZone!) and your browser used (along
with version).  Hopefully with the data they can find out if the issue is
'seats' (and then perhaps can get IBM to donate more!) or a particular
browser is having issues that needs particular review. I can promise you no
one tested this with Chrome or Safari -- no one in the volunteer groups uses
those!  So again, if you want to vollunteer to 'beta test' your favorite
flavor of browser, PLEASE let Baker know -- they can always use more help.

Without editorial.

David W.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of u2ug
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:02 AM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] Better and Better Application - Launching 
> todayFriday 8/21/09 -- Browser instructions
> 
> Having worked with asp.net from inception, I can say that 
> this type of thinking is absolutely bogus.
> If things only work in IE, it has nothing to do with it being 
> a .asp, .aspx , ASP.NET , pick your platform application. It 
> is a simply matter of lazy/uninformed design/implementation. 
> My guess is it was written to work only in IE by virtue of it 
> being 'written' using 100% visual studio drag&drop and never 
> tested in any other browsers at any point to ensure that it 
> was in fact cross browser compliant - this is a developer 
> issue NOT a development platform issue.  
> I hate to say it, but it really bad to have such a site 
> advertised as the mv world's 'Better & Better' web app, as it 
> just reinforces the kiddie/dinosaur/non-professional 
> impressions that are a constant hindrance.
> Sorry if that treads on any toes, but this is an extremely 
> poor example of a professional web app.
> 
> 
> 

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