No - I thought we were talking about creating a **NEW** counter variable in
a large old program, call it xx1  do a search on xx1  no lines, then use it.


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: 26 January 2012 20:59
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Passing by Value


Mecki you're not paying attention.
You have an 8000 line program that uses a variable "A"
You didn't write it.  You need to find where that variable is assigned.
You search for A ?

That's not going to work.



-----Original Message-----
From: Mecki Foerthmann <mec...@gmx.net>
To: u2-users <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Sent: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Passing by Value


No, you are completely wrong if you think that is only your world.
ho in our game has the luxury working only with their own code?
 have been doing what you describe for over 25 years now and probably ost of
the contributors here do the same thing for a living too and not ust since
yesterday.
nd I may have made that silly mistake once or twice as a junior but ince
then it has become second nature.
nd in those days we didn't have the luxury of 8000 line programs ecause the
limit for any item was 32K and you were forced to use very hort variable
names and couldn't even indent your code because spaces re characters too.
n one shop I worked we used X, Y, Z etc. in 'primary' code and in nternal
subroutines XX, YY, ZZ and so on for loop counters.
 personally prefer more meaningful names but can't do that always ecause I
try to follow the naming conventions of the code I'm working on.
Even the editor you use is irrelevant since I haven't seen one yet that
oesn't have a search function.
ust go to the top of the program and search for the variable name you ntend
to use.
f your search comes up negative you're safe to use it.
imple!
And OTOH how can you make 'rapid changes' to code if you don't nderstand
what it is supposed to do and where the varibles come from?
On 26/01/2012 20:16, Wjhonson wrote:
 Completely wrong :)
 You apparently have the luxury of only working on programs written by
ourself.

 In my world, we are called upon to make rapid changes in programs written
by wenty programmers over twenty years.
 You haven't specified *how* you ensure that your counters are unique, and
by he way, the issue is not just counters, but any variable.



 -----Original Message-----
 From: Mecki Foerthmann<mec...@gmx.net>
 To: u2-users<u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
 Sent: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 12:13 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] Passing by Value


 What has the length of the program to do with it?
   always abide to the rule that a for next counter in any internal
ubroutine has to be unique.
 hat way even if the sub is called from within a for next loop the  ounters
never conflict.
 o it doesn't make any difference whatsoever if a program is 80 or 8000
ines long.
 BTW a program with 8000 lines is usually a sign of poor design.
 On 26/01/2012 19:02, Wjhonson wrote:
   You've never worked on programs that are 8000 lines long I take it :)




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   From: John Hester<jhes...@momtex.com>
   To: U2 Users List<u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
   Sent: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 10:49 am
   Subject: Re: [U2] Passing by Value


   I like to use increasing roman numerals:
   FOR I = 1 TO COUNTER
     GOSUB PROCESS
   EXT I
   PROCESS:
   OR II = 1 TO COUNTER2
     FOR III = 1 TO COUNTER3
       FOR IV = 1 TO COUNTER4

       NEXT IV
     NEXT III
   EXT II
   ETURN
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   ubject: Re: [U2] Passing by Value

   n a related note, any clever ideas to localize a variable to a local
   ubroutine?
   For I = 1 to 10
      GOSUB PROCESS
   ext I
   top
   3000 Lines of code later....
   PROCESS:
   OR I = 1 TO 20
   RINT I
   EXT I
   ETURN
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