Vmark + Unidata = Ardent -> Informix -> IBM - Rocket, right?

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM, David Taylor <da...@sysmarkinfo.com> wrote:

> If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM.
>
> I believe (and there may have been some smoke and mirrors in all this)
> that Informatics "acquired" Ardent and then assigned the CEO of Ardent as
> the President of Informatics, or something like that, to run both Ardent
> and Informatics.  And then later, IBM acquired Informatics for their
> database and just inherited Vardent almost by accident.
>
> Then, I believe that IBM acquired Unidata and formed the U2 product group.
>
> Certainly someone (Suzie) at Rocket could clarify this and perhaps publish
> an document for historical purposes to document this history completely
> and accurately.
>
> Dave Taylor
> Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.
>
>
>
> > Prime Computer out of Natick Massachusetts went out of business.   One
> > of their products was PR1ME INFORMATION.   They were acquired by another
> > computer, Computervision (Thank you Mark, I'd forgotten the name).
> >
> > The product PRIME INFORMATION was acquired by VMark.   Vmark was later
> > acquired by Ardent Software.
> >
> > I don't remember if there were any companies in between Ardent and IBM,
> > and while this was going on, there was a separate history happening for
> > Unidata.  Net upshot was that IBM acquired both Universe and Unidata,
> > and branded them as U2.
> >
> > Source - my memory, (such as it is).  I started playing with PR1ME
> > INFORMATION on a PR1ME 450-II back in 1978.
> >
> > I bought disk drives, controllers, and tape units off and on throughout
> > the years from Computronix, specifically from Randy Styka, which is
> > where I came into this conversation.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/26/2013 4:18 PM, Wjhonson wrote:
> >> so explain that better
> >> and whats the source?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com>
> >> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
> >> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 12:58 pm
> >> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)
> >>
> >>
> >> I didn't say vmark acquired prime. I said they acquired prime
> >> information.
> >>
> >> (Allen - Sent from my paperweight)
> >>
> >> On Apr 26, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That idea doesn't seem right Allen.
> >>> I can't find any reference to Vmark acquiring Prime, after Prime's
> >>> bankruptcy.
> >>> One reference says that the Prime assets all went to ComputerVision,
> >>> but it's
> >> just a blog
> >>> Anyone have a newspaper article link ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com>
> >>> To: u2-users <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
> >>> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:58 am
> >>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'll have to update the wiki poo pea a pages
> >>>
> >>> Who is the woman in this picture?
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prime9950_kean.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com>
> >>> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
> >>> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:31 am
> >>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Prime Information was a product running as an application on PRIMOS.
> >>>
> >>>  It was acquired by Vmark and subsequently by Advent if memory serves
> >>> me
> >>> correctly.
> >>>
> >>> IBM acquired Universe and Unidata and subsequently sold them to Rocket.
> >>>
> >>> (Allen - Sent from my paperweight)
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I don't think Universe was ever Prime.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com>
> >>>> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
> >>>> Sent: Thu, Apr 25, 2013 5:06 pm
> >>>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 4/25/2013 5:36 PM, Randy Styka wrote:
> >>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's been a long time since I posted here but our company,
> >>>>> Computronics,
> >>>>> has sold a product called PEEK for Unix systems since 1993.  It is
> >>>>> most
> >>>>> often used for remote support, to see what is on someone's screen.
> >>>>> And,
> >>>>> if needed to send keystrokes as if they were typing them, to help
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> out or close out programs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But one of the other uses is for logging.  PEEK can be set up to fire
> >>>>> off
> >>>>> a background process when a user logs in.  That process is
> >>>>> independent of
> >>>>> the user, and can run under another id.  It can then write a log of
> >>>>> either
> >>>>> all keystrokes of the user (input only mode) or of input and the
> >>>>> resulting
> >>>>> output.  Since it runs under a different id, the logs can be placed
> >>>>> where
> >>>>> you want and they can't be modified or accessed by the user being
> >>>>> "peeked"
> >>>>> on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If this is of interest, visit http://www.computronics.com and look
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> information on PEEK.  The manuals are there and a free trial is
> >>>>> available.
> >>>>> Note we are UNIX only (we don't do Windows ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you have questions, email me at ra...@computronics.com.  Thanks!
> >>>>> Randy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
> >>>>> | Computronics                   Randy Styka, ra...@computronics.com
> >>>>> |
> >>>>> | 4N165 Wood Dale Road           Phone:  630/941-7767
> >>>>> |
> >>>>> | Addison, Illinois  60101 USA   Fax:    630/941-7714
> >>>>> |
> >>>>> |                                www:    http://www.computronics.com
> >>>>> |
> >>>>> | for product information:       i...@computronics.com
> >>>>> |
> >>>>> | for product support:           supp...@computronics.com
> >>>>> |
> >>>>>
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
> >>>>
> >>>> For what it may be worth; I'm happy to vouch for Randy and
> >>>> Computronics
> >>>> in general.  They've been around for Universe since it was Prime
> >>>> Information and have a stellar reputation.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Allen Egerton; aeger...@pobox.com
> >>>>
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