If I recall correctly (and I may not ;-), Ardent was the company behind
UniData.  Ardent and VMark merged (or Ardent acquired VMark -- I'm not 100%
clear on the details), and retained the Ardent name.  Ardent was
subsequently acquired by Informix, which was acquired by IBM, which later
sold the U2 division to Rocket Software.

Larry Hiscock
Western Computer Services


-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Taylor
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 6:13 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM.

I believe (and there may have been some smoke and mirrors in all this) that
Informatics "acquired" Ardent and then assigned the CEO of Ardent as the
President of Informatics, or something like that, to run both Ardent and
Informatics.  And then later, IBM acquired Informatics for their database
and just inherited Vardent almost by accident.

Then, I believe that IBM acquired Unidata and formed the U2 product group.

Certainly someone (Suzie) at Rocket could clarify this and perhaps publish
an document for historical purposes to document this history completely and
accurately.

Dave Taylor
Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.



> Prime Computer out of Natick Massachusetts went out of business.   One
> of their products was PR1ME INFORMATION.   They were acquired by another
> computer, Computervision (Thank you Mark, I'd forgotten the name).
>
> The product PRIME INFORMATION was acquired by VMark.   Vmark was later
> acquired by Ardent Software.
>
> I don't remember if there were any companies in between Ardent and 
> IBM, and while this was going on, there was a separate history 
> happening for Unidata.  Net upshot was that IBM acquired both Universe 
> and Unidata, and branded them as U2.
>
> Source - my memory, (such as it is).  I started playing with PR1ME 
> INFORMATION on a PR1ME 450-II back in 1978.
>
> I bought disk drives, controllers, and tape units off and on 
> throughout the years from Computronix, specifically from Randy Styka, 
> which is where I came into this conversation.
>
>
>
> On 4/26/2013 4:18 PM, Wjhonson wrote:
>> so explain that better
>> and whats the source?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com>
>> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
>> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 12:58 pm
>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)
>>
>>
>> I didn't say vmark acquired prime. I said they acquired prime 
>> information.
>>
>> (Allen - Sent from my paperweight)
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That idea doesn't seem right Allen.
>>> I can't find any reference to Vmark acquiring Prime, after Prime's 
>>> bankruptcy.
>>> One reference says that the Prime assets all went to ComputerVision, 
>>> but it's
>> just a blog
>>> Anyone have a newspaper article link ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com>
>>> To: u2-users <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
>>> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:58 am
>>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll have to update the wiki poo pea a pages
>>>
>>> Who is the woman in this picture?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prime9950_kean.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com>
>>> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
>>> Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:31 am
>>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)
>>>
>>>
>>> Prime Information was a product running as an application on PRIMOS.
>>>
>>>  It was acquired by Vmark and subsequently by Advent if memory 
>>> serves me correctly.
>>>
>>> IBM acquired Universe and Unidata and subsequently sold them to Rocket.
>>>
>>> (Allen - Sent from my paperweight)
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think Universe was ever Prime.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Allen Egerton <aeger...@pobox.com>
>>>> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
>>>> Sent: Thu, Apr 25, 2013 5:06 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/2013 5:36 PM, Randy Styka wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been a long time since I posted here but our company, 
>>>>> Computronics, has sold a product called PEEK for Unix systems 
>>>>> since 1993.  It is most often used for remote support, to see what 
>>>>> is on someone's screen.
>>>>> And,
>>>>> if needed to send keystrokes as if they were typing them, to help 
>>>>> them out or close out programs.
>>>>>
>>>>> But one of the other uses is for logging.  PEEK can be set up to 
>>>>> fire off a background process when a user logs in.  That process 
>>>>> is independent of the user, and can run under another id.  It can 
>>>>> then write a log of either all keystrokes of the user (input only 
>>>>> mode) or of input and the resulting output.  Since it runs under a 
>>>>> different id, the logs can be placed where you want and they can't 
>>>>> be modified or accessed by the user being "peeked"
>>>>> on.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is of interest, visit http://www.computronics.com and look 
>>>>> for information on PEEK.  The manuals are there and a free trial 
>>>>> is available.
>>>>> Note we are UNIX only (we don't do Windows ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have questions, email me at ra...@computronics.com.  Thanks!
>>>>> Randy
>>>>>
>>>>> +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>> | Computronics                   Randy Styka, ra...@computronics.com
>>>>> |
>>>>> | 4N165 Wood Dale Road           Phone:  630/941-7767
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Addison, Illinois  60101 USA   Fax:    630/941-7714
>>>>> |
>>>>> |                                www:    http://www.computronics.com
>>>>> |
>>>>> | for product information:       i...@computronics.com
>>>>> |
>>>>> | for product support:           supp...@computronics.com
>>>>> |
>>>>> +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>
>>>> For what it may be worth; I'm happy to vouch for Randy and 
>>>> Computronics in general.  They've been around for Universe since it 
>>>> was Prime Information and have a stellar reputation.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Allen Egerton; aeger...@pobox.com
>>>>
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