Thanks for the reply Tony,

I can't speak for anyone but Rocket, but we definitely don't feel threatened 
and encourage everyone to write great applications and share the story, 
regardless of what technology you use to connect U2 to your front-end.

Did I mention share the story? :)

Cheers,
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:52 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] UniObjects.Net vs Thrid-party Products

> From: Daniel McGrath
> Tony, out of curiosity, have you looked at UO.NET's replacement: U2 
> Toolkit for .NET?

Not recently bud. Once I settle on a toolkit that works well, my research in 
that specific area slows down. How much research do we continue to do on cars 
after we've made a purchase? Do we keep house hunting after we move into a new 
home? It's appropriate to be informed about what's happening in our industry, 
but I have dozens of platforms, frameworks, toolkits, and related versions that 
I need to keep up with - that still means time needs to be allocated for 
hundreds of permutations of all of these blasted software packages that are all 
supposed to "save us time". Like everyone else here, I need to use whatever 
"free time" I have to hone my skills with the latest versions of the tools I 
already use, rather than continue to look into replacements. Despite 
professional curiosity, at some point we need to stop playing with tools and 
just hunker down to write real code.

I'd like to say that at some point I'll cycle back around for another look at 
the U2 toolkit, but remember that for my purposes of writing applications that 
are the same across all MV platforms,  a platform-specific tool is generally 
off of my radar. Sure, it would be nice to save my clients money using free 
tools, but I have U2 clients that have been running a single license of mv.NET 
for years. The tiny cost of the tool is trivial in the big picture. People need 
to think hard about exactly how much "free" costs them, or how adverse they are 
to buying a low-cost license for something that will last years.

And that's just the cost of the tool. When a U2 site posts a job ad for someone 
to do UI work or web services, they might say "must know
U2 Toolkit for .NET". If they have a tool that anyone in the MV industry can 
use, the scope of candidates broadens to include U2 developers And everyone 
else. .NET developers have already broadened their scope to the outside world. 
Once they/we have made that jump, there's no reason anymore to limit one's self 
to a single MV platform and related tools. A company that is going in this 
direction should think hard about branching out and then snapping right back 
again to platform-specific tools. Sure, you're going to find someone who does 
U2-only work with .NET, but why limit your scope to U2-only people?
The non-end-user developers that I know who use mv.NET aren't interested in 
limiting themselves to one platform anymore.  It doesn't make sense to not have 
access to that pool of talent just because you want to use a "free" tool.

And no, the DBMS vendors shouldn't feel threatened by this - we're enhancing 
applications for everyone, not "the competition". It's the end-users that win 
here as well as their up-line channel. So Rocket Software and Tiger Logic and 
Ladybridge and everyone else should be encouraging their developer channel to 
use mv.NET rather than somehow feeling threatened by it.

(More than I expected to write on that one, sorry.) T

Tony Gravagno   
Nebula Research and Development         
TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com         
Nebula R&D sells mv.NET worldwide       
and provides related development services       
http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog      
http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno         


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