Michael,

>As a general remark on some of the discussions on probability theory
>that recur on the UAI list, I think that it's important to emphasize
>that probability theory is best viewed as a special case of measure
>theory, and it's not a conceit of the mathematicians that they settled
>on the machinery of measurable spaces, random-variables-as-functions
>and the like.  In case you don't believe this, read Section 1 of
>Billingsley, which will convince you that without measure theory even
>some elementary results regarding coin-tossing are out of reach.

I studied measure theory out of Billingsley, and I share Mike's 
enthusiasm for the book as a good intro to the subject.  I agree that 
serious study of measure theory is important for any kind of general 
treatment of continuous random variables.

However, it's worth noting that Phil Dawid, Vladimir Vovk, and Glenn 
Shafer have been working on an alternate formulation of probability 
("prequential games"), based on agents engaged in sequential games. 
(Shafer and Vovk just published a book which they announced on this 
list.)  They have re-proven a bunch of the standard limit theorems 
and other results of probability theory without recourse to measure 
theory.  This doesn't make measure theory unimportant -- their theory 
is an alternative viewpoint which reproduces many of the same 
mathematical results (and probably they will reproduce more of them 
as time goes on).  Anyone seriously interested in foundational 
issues, or anyone working in areas requiring an understanding of 
subtleties, needs to have a thorough understanding of measure theory. 
Whichever way the foundational debate plays out, measure theory is 
still valid mathematics and will continue to be used to prove 
interesting results.  Nevertheless, as an ontology for probability, 
prequential theory is likely to be more palatable than measure theory 
to people who have an affinity for constructivist theories of 
mathematics.  Moreover, it has a more natural semantics (IMHO) than 
measure theory.  In prequential theory, probability claims (e.g., X1, 
..., XN are iid draws from distribution P(X)) are evaluated based 
only on actual observed outcomes, rather than on on what would have 
occurred if values other than the observed outcomes had happened.  In 
this way, prequential theory is similar in spirit to the likelihood 
principle.  A probabilistic claim such as the one above is correct in 
the prequential interpretation if and only if an agent named 
"skeptic" (playing the role of a skeptical scientist who looks for 
flaws in "forecaster's" reasoning) in an appropriately defined 
"prequential game" does not have a strategy that can make him/her 
infinitely rich.  It is a theorem that any two "prequential players" 
whose forecasts are "prequentially calibrated" (the prequential 
version of having a long-run limit, which applies even for processes 
having no stationary distribution) will converge to the same 
probability forecasts -- thus providing a constructivist 
interpretation of "objective probability" (actually, I prefer the 
term "intersubjectively verifiable" but the idea is the same).

Kathy






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