Just curious as to (still) why there are no plans to make Ubiquity available on FF addons site - addons.mozilla.org (even if as a experimental addon)?
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Gary Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Atul - for me, that wiki page sums up the proposals very well! > Sufficiently detailed to understand what motivates each goal, a good range > of targets, without sounding like a wishy-washy 'mission statement'. > If I think of more, I will certainly throw them on there for discussion. > > > Regards, > Gary > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Atul Varma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> It's clear that there's a lot of really awesome directions Ubiquity can >> go, but it looks like we need to focus in on what particular directions we >> want to take it over the next two months. As Aza has proposed, we can >> innovate the user interface and mechanisms for allowing the community to >> contribute to UI innovation; we could also work on the herd, like fern >> suggested; and Gary makes a very good argument for stabilizing our current >> feature set. >> >> I've created a work-in-progress 0.2 roadmap on the wiki here: >> >> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity/0.2_Roadmap_Proposals >> >> I've tried adding what people have mentioned here so far. If you guys >> don't mind, could you please take a look at it and add anything that you >> feel is necessary? Once we've got all our ideas down, we can start figuring >> out how to pare things down based on Ubiquity's vision. Please also feel >> free to justify your rationale for features that you're particularly >> interested in. >> >> - Atul >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Abimanyu Raja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> The reason it's called The Herd: http://www.toolness.com/wp/?p=144 >>> >>> 2008/11/6 indolering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>>> Can we call it something with better connotations than "The Herd?" >>>> >>>> I mean, the democrats lost, badly, for the past 8 years because they >>>> failed to correctly frame (http://tiny.cc/frame448) their viewpoints >>>> and evoke the right emotions, until Barak got them all excited with >>>> his rhetoric. >>>> >>>> It's hard to get excited about being a cow : ( >>>> >>>> >>>> Oh, and now we should get back on topic : ) >>>> -Zak >>>> >>>> On Nov 4, 6:39 am, "Abimanyu Raja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> > Haha..yes. We should do that. >>>> > >>>> > 2008/11/4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > >>>> > > Why not get Ubiquity on addons.mozilla.com in the first place? >>>> > >>>> > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Abimanyu Raja < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >> Yep, the social aspects like on addons.mozilla.com should also be >>>> part of >>>> > >> The Herd, imo. >>>> > >>>> > >> I agree with Gary. That's why I wanted to include improving >>>> performance as >>>> > >> a major goal. Specifically, the tickets he mentioned, adding back >>>> old >>>> > >> features and replacing the annotation service. Regarding planning >>>> for 0.2, I >>>> > >> think it's just about setting the long term goals. In the end, they >>>> have to >>>> > >> be broken to smaller milestones as Aza said. So, I think that >>>> performance >>>> > >> issues, a goal for 0.2, should probably be the focus for 0.1.4 >>>> (assuming >>>> > >> 0.1.3 is focused on skinning). Or we should swap the focuses. 0.1.3 >>>> should >>>> > >> be for performance issues. I would really like the context menu and >>>> > >> noun-first suggestions back. And of course, we should really try >>>> not to >>>> > >> break people's current behavior (esp. noun-first suggestions). >>>> > >>>> > >> I feel like we need to delegate work (at least for a few key >>>> issues) to >>>> > >> make faster progress. >>>> > >>>> > >> - Abi >>>> > >>>> > >> 2008/11/4 Gary Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > >>>> > >> Hi guys, >>>> > >>>> > >>> Whilst some of the goals for 0.2 sound fun, in my opinion there >>>> are some >>>> > >>> fundamentals that perhaps should be addressed beforehand. For >>>> example, >>>> > >>> reintroducing functionality that was lost with 0.1.2 (e.g. tickets >>>> #358, >>>> > >>> #359 & #394 are some I raised about this :-), stabilising the >>>> codebase, and >>>> > >>> addressing performance. Something else that really needs >>>> addressing is the >>>> > >>> trust-network and the way commands are subscribed to. I've read a >>>> few blog >>>> > >>> posts, and received a couple of emails, saying that the major >>>> factor that is >>>> > >>> stopping people from adopting Ubiquity is the security risk of >>>> subscribing >>>> > >>> to new commands. >>>> > >>>> > >>> Perhaps these are planned for a prior release, but considering >>>> 0.1.2 was >>>> > >>> about 6 weeks late, and 0.1.3 still has 28 active tickets, >>>> planning 0.2 for >>>> > >>> the end of 2008 seems a little over-ambitious. I don't want to >>>> rain on the >>>> > >>> parade - I love hacking away at new stuff with the best of them - >>>> but >>>> > >>> without some core stability I think the user base will lose >>>> interest and >>>> > >>> we'll be left with an interesting toy for a handful of people, but >>>> no >>>> > >>> wide-spread adoption. >>>> > >>>> > >>> Of course this is only my take on things, and perhaps not seeing >>>> the >>>> > >>> bigger picture :-) I hope these comments are taken in a positive >>>> way. >>>> > >>>> > >>> Cheers >>>> > >>>> > >>> Gary >>>> > >>>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Fernando Takai < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > >>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Yes, but herd needs to be improved. For example, we need to add >>>> social >>>> > >>>> features like rating, commenting -- and we need to have a place >>>> to host >>>> > >>>> commands, like gist, but ours. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Dean Landolt < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Fernando Takai < >>>> > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> Ubiquity planet is like an addon.firefox.com for commands (if >>>> im not >>>> > >>>>>> mistaken). >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Wouldn't that be the Herd? >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Typically planets are just aggregators for specific communities >>>> of >>>> > >>>>> interest [1] -- so of people that often blog about Ubiquity, >>>> it's just one >>>> > >>>>> central place that pulls in those posts. Unless you mean >>>> something else, >>>> > >>>>> Aza? >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_(software)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_%28software%29> >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_%28software%29> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- >>>> > >>>> Fernando "Takai" >>>> > >>>>http://flickr.com/photos/supeertakai >>>> > >>>>http://fernandotakai.wordpress.com >>>> > >>>>http://fernandotakai.jaiku.com >>>> > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > Mayuresh >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > -- Mayuresh --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ubiquity-firefox" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ubiquity-firefox?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
