I also believe that airPrism doesn't do anything about co-channel either, only adjacent channel.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: "ubnt users" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:06:42 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs I don't think cavity filters prevent co-channel interference. Adjac e nt channel interference, yes . Co-channel interference is interference on the channel you are trying to use. Some body tell me if I'm off my rocker. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 07:16 PM, Blair Davis wrote: AirPrism was/is supposed to return to us the benefits, (adjacent channel rejection, improved sensitivity), of the original dual superheterodyne Hermes I and Intersil Prism II chipsets as opposed to the current direct conversion Atheros chipsets. I don't see a major use for it in clients, but for an AP, it could be worth quite a bit to me. I'm currently using cavity filters on my multi-AP towers to prevent co-channel interference in 2.4GHz. This, of course, destroys my frequency agility. Just for the fun of it, I went over and played with some old Intersil cards I still have around. I can run 3 AP's on 1,6 and 11 using those old cards and get full speed thru them all in the same room... That just doesn't work with the newer cards... I really hope this works the way we need it to... To Ben: I'd be interested in testing the 2.4GHz gear in a fairly tough environment here if you have need... -- On 12/10/2014 10:06 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: <blockquote> Well, these have the AirPrism chip. I don't remember the other having it.. Regards, Chuck On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Multi-lane-Rf != airprism? I'm pretty sure I was told by people at Ubiquiti that it was the same thing, just kind of an "Earlier Version" type thing. Is that not correct? josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/10/2014 05:08 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: <blockquote> No, that wasn't the hardware. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ruschmann < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta hardware for this? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone developing a custom chip? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore < [email protected] > wrote: > They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being > released...so it will be staggered. > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway > < [email protected] > > wrote: >> >> Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam >> DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015? I’m really trying to >> schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up. >> >> >> >> rory >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto: [email protected] ] >> On Behalf Of RickG >> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM >> >> >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs >> >> >> >> Ben Moore via wispa.org >> >> 3:17 PM (10 hours ago) >> >> >> >> We already have these in transit. I would expect DFS to be available >> on these early next year. >> >> >> >> The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway >> < [email protected] > >> wrote: >> >> I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1 >> and DFS? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto: [email protected] ] >> On Behalf Of Ben Moore >> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM >> To: Ubiquiti Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs >> >> >> >> Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1. You can see current >> performance with PTMP from Chuck's post. Another should be posted >> shortly. >> >> >> >> There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H < [email protected] > wrote: >> >> Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'. >> >> I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you Ben! I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility... >> but I for one want forwards movement! Even if it ultimately means no >> backwards compatibility. >> >> On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote: >> > Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before >> > being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline). There >> > are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding >> > backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before >> > adding more variables). >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes < [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >> wrote: >> > >> > Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the >> > Backwards compatibility of the new units?____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > *Steven Barnes____* >> > >> > GM____ >> > >> > PCSWIN.com ____ >> > >> > Howard LLC.____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > *From:* [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] > >> > [mailto: [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM >> > >> > >> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP >> > locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard < [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >> wrote:____ >> > >> > Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only >> > Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p >> > >> > So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are >> > there other changes as well? ____ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > *From:* [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] > >> > [ [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >] on behalf of Ben Moore >> > [ [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] >] >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM____ >> > >> > >> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > ;-) I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being >> > added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that >> > can be done with that). Will send out some details shortly on >> > PTMP networks in the wild ;)____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard >> > < [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] >> >> > wrote:____ >> > >> > ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the >> > same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is >> > what happens when you don't make new stuff look different >> > :p >> > ____ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > *From:* [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] > >> > [ [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >] on behalf of Mike >> > Hammett [ [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >] >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:22 PM >> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > Oh, so the non-Lite Rocket. Sorry. >> > >> > The e-mail didn't really make it clear that there were new >> > things, just the same platform hype we had 14 months ago. I >> > didn't read it all, just skimmed it because it didn't look >> > any different. >> > >> > Ooooohhh, so the PtMP works now with the new >> > software?____ >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> > >> > < https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL >< https://plus.google.com/+Intellige >> > ntComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< https://www.linkedin.com/company/intell >> > igent-computing-solutions>< https://twitter.com/ICSIL >____ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > *From: *"Ben Moore" < [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >> >> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" < [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >> >> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 1:20:19 PM >> > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > The 3 new products announced today: ____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > R5AC-PTP - Rocket w/AirPrism, PTP only____ >> > >> > NBE-5AC-19 - 19dB NanoBeam____ >> > >> > PBE-5AC-620 - 620mm PowerBeam____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Also, all of the software updates:____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > http://www.ubnt.com/broadband/software/____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Some highlights:____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > - Dedicated spectrum analysis (persistent)____ >> > >> > - CINR (Carrier to Interference and Noise Ratio - accurate >> > assessment of channel conditions____ >> > >> > - New diagnostic tools (Ethernet Cabling test, RF >> > Diagnostics, etc...)____ >> > >> > - PTMP enabled on R5AC-LITE____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > The R5AC-PTMP (AirPrism AP) will be announced >> > shortly.____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > Thanks,____ >> > >> > Ben____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Mathew Howard >> > < [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] >> >> > wrote:____ >> > >> > We have a couple of links up... I haven't really seen >> > any problems with them. >> > >> > I think the NanoBeam AC might be new... at least I >> > hadn't seen it before, but otherwise, no, nothing >> > new.____ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----- >> > >> > *From:* [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] > >> > [ [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >] on behalf of >> > Mike >> > Hammett [ [email protected] >> > <mailto: [email protected] >] >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:07 PM >> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group >> > *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs____ >> > >> > For those of you that have them... are they >> > working well? >> > >> > Was there anything new in their announcement today? It >> > didn't seem like it.____ >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> > >> > < https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL >< https://plus.google.com/+Intellige >> > ntComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< https://www.linkedin.com/company/intell >> > igent-computing-solutions>< https://twitter.com/ICSIL >____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] > >> > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users____ >> > >> > __ __ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto: [email protected] > >> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -RickG KyWiFi >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users </blockquote> _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users </blockquote> -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users </blockquote> _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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