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>>    1. Re: 8.5.0 problem (Roy)
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>>    3. AC in 4.9ghz (Kevin Sullivan)
>>    4. Re: AC in 4.9ghz (Mimbres Communications)
>>    5. cameras 1000ft through a forest (Jan-OOLLC)
>>    6. Re: 8.5.0 problem (James Craig)
>>    7. Re: cameras 1000ft through a forest (Mimbres Communications)
>>    8. Re: cameras 1000ft through a forest (Jan-OOLLC)
>>    9. Re: cameras 1000ft through a forest (Galen Manners)
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>>   11. Re: cameras 1000ft through a forest (Roy)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:48:03 -0700
>> From: Roy <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
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>> Actually they can.? It depends on what OS you used when you activated
>> DFS.? I have a number of M5s running in that range
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/2018 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>> > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
>> >
>> > Rory
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> >
>> > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
>> > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer
>> worked on any UNII frequency.? I had to move the radio down to a clogged
>> non-UNII spectrum channel?
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:50:49 +0000
>> From: Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
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>> 6.13 or 6.14.  Might be a legacy upgrade thing.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Roy
>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:48 AM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually they can.? It depends on what OS you used when you activated
>> DFS.? I have a number of M5s running in that range
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/2018 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>> > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
>> >
>> > Rory
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> >
>> > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
>> > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer
>> worked on any UNII frequency.? I had to move the radio down to a clogged
>> non-UNII spectrum channel?
>> >
>> > Forbes Mercy
>> > Washington Broadband, Inc.
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:32:25 -0800
>> From: "Kevin Sullivan" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] AC in 4.9ghz
>> To: <[email protected]>
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>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a city that is currently using AF4 links for what is really a very
>> low bandwidth application. They need to add a few more sites, but the PtP
>> nature of AF is making it difficult. I know Mimosa says that all of their
>> 5ghz products are legal for use in the 4.9ghz band,
>> (http://mimosa.co/publicsafety).
>>
>>
>>
>>  Does anyone know if the ubnt AC 5ghz line is legal to use in 4.9?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
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>>                 Kevin
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:53:53 -0700
>> From: Mimbres Communications <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AC in 4.9ghz
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
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>> The airMAX AC products do not have 4.9 band approvals.
>>
>> The LTU (PtMP) hardware is capable of operating in that band, but AFAIK
>> the
>> business case for FCC approvals is still under discussion.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Kevin Sullivan <
>> [email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > All,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We have a city that is currently using AF4 links for what is really a
>> very
>> > low bandwidth application. They need to add a few more sites, but the
>> PtP
>> > nature of AF is making it difficult. I know Mimosa says that all of
>> their
>> > 5ghz products are legal for use in the 4.9ghz band, (
>> > http://mimosa.co/publicsafety).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Does anyone know if the ubnt AC 5ghz line is legal to use in 4.9?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >                 Kevin
>> >
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 11:54:12 -0800
>> From: Jan-OOLLC <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
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>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.? Range is a
>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> dumpers.? What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> I think about for first attempt?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jan V
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 15:11:06 -0500
>> From: James Craig <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
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>> What freq was the AP (and channel width) set to, Forbes?
>>
>> Please keep in mind that the XM units operate under a different DFS grant
>> VS XW and AC radios.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > 6.13 or 6.14.  Might be a legacy upgrade thing.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
>> ]
>> > On Behalf Of Roy
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:48 AM
>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Actually they can.  It depends on what OS you used when you activated
>> > DFS.  I have a number of M5s running in that range
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/25/2018 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>> > > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
>> > >
>> > > Rory
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@
>> wispa.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
>> > > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> > > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> > >
>> > > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and
>> the
>> > > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no
>> longer
>> > worked on any UNII frequency.  I had to move the radio down to a clogged
>> > non-UNII spectrum channel?
>> > >
>> > > Forbes Mercy
>> > > Washington Broadband, Inc.
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:19:09 -0700
>> From: Mimbres Communications <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
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>> How dense a forest?
>>
>> 2.4 GHz airMAX AC is cheap enough to test with.  7.5W max on the CPEs.
>>
>> UVC Gen3 draws 4W max (less during the day when the IR is off).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Jan-OOLLC <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> > little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> > dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> > I think about for first attempt?
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Jan V
>> >
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:22:25 -0800
>> From: Jan-OOLLC <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>> To: [email protected]
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.? These bastards
>> are dumping almost every night.? There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
>> the way.? Should I think about running power 1000ft?? Is there a cheap
>> way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>>
>> Jan V
>>
>> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.? Range is a
>>
>> > little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> > dumpers.? What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> > I think about for first attempt?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 20:32:50 +0000
>> From: "Galen Manners" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID: <emf2a0860e-fc67-44a2-817a-c4aa4aa7d7f7@galen-pc>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Might be way off base but have you considered a trail (game) camera with
>> cellular (if you have cellular service in the area).  Lots of different
>> options to choose from.  Just a thought.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Jan-OOLLC" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: 1/25/2018 2:22:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>>
>> >I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
>> >are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
>> >the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
>> >way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>> >
>> >Jan V
>> >
>> >I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> >
>> >>little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> >>dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras
>> >>should
>> >>I think about for first attempt?
>> >>
>> >
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:37:47 -0800
>> From: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Cheapest, quickest, I would think to try would be 3
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RouterBOARD-lite-
>> ports-router/dp/B00ZPTW8T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=
>> 1516912362&sr=8-10&keywords=mikrotik+poe+switch
>>
>> With the camera hung on the end..    Space the POE switches to retime
>> the ethernet.   Start with 30 Volts.   Sounds like you have power at the
>> other end to power the cameras?
>>
>> Power the last switch from the other end
>>
>> Bunch of assumptions there..    1000 feet of direct bury laid on the
>> ground without anything in the way and how many cameras?
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/18 12:22 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> > I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
>> > are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
>> > the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
>> > way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>> >
>> > Jan V
>> >
>> > I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> >
>> >> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> >> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras should
>> >> I think about for first attempt?
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > [email protected]
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:37:21 -0700
>> From: Roy <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] cameras 1000ft through a forest
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> How about Arlo GO
>>
>> http://arlo.com/en-us/products/arlo-go/default.aspx?cid=us-arlo-pro-srch
>>
>> Battery Powered and uses LTE
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/2018 1:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> > Cheapest, quickest, I would think to try would be 3
>> >
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/Mikrotik-RouterBOARD-lite-
>> ports-router/dp/B00ZPTW8T2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=
>> 1516912362&sr=8-10&keywords=mikrotik+poe+switch
>> >
>> > With the camera hung on the end..    Space the POE switches to retime
>> > the ethernet.   Start with 30 Volts.   Sounds like you have power at the
>> > other end to power the cameras?
>> >
>> > Power the last switch from the other end
>> >
>> > Bunch of assumptions there..    1000 feet of direct bury laid on the
>> > ground without anything in the way and how many cameras?
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/25/18 12:22 PM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> >> I have no details/requirements other than cheap, quick.  These bastards
>> >> are dumping almost every night.  There are cedars, Myrtles, etc... in
>> >> the way.  Should I think about running power 1000ft?  Is there a cheap
>> >> way to get enough power to the cameras via POE?
>> >>
>> >> Jan V
>> >>
>> >> I have to get cameras up and have a forest in the way.  Range is a
>> >>
>> >>> little over 1000ft from house, need to live monitor the road and catch
>> >>> dumpers.  What radios, how to keep them powered and what cameras
>> should
>> >>> I think about for first attempt?
>> >>>
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 16:59:29 -0500
>> From: RickG <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
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>> Rory, see attached :)
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > The M radios don't support 5585-5655GHz.  AC radios do.
>> >
>> > Rory
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
>> ]
>> > On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:29 PM
>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] 8.5.0 problem
>> >
>> > Did I miss a memo, I upgraded a Prism 5AC Gen2 to firmware 8.50 and the
>> > 6 radios with 6.14XM Loco and Nanobridges dropped offline and no longer
>> > worked on any UNII frequency.  I had to move the radio down to a clogged
>> > non-UNII spectrum channel?
>> >
>> > Forbes Mercy
>> > Washington Broadband, Inc.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Ubnt_users mailing list
>> > [email protected]
>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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