Brough,

I think we’ve had the same problems, however, mine resulted in late night 
commutes to sites just to find out the switch needed to be rebooted due to a 
whole slew of errors. It always seems to be with the slave side of the links. 
Disabling pause frames and flow control mitigated this. Though we still see the 
error attacks about once every week or too since. With all switches @ 1.4.9 we 
are still seeing the issues however. So I am still not comfortable with 
enabling them and FC on anything AF.





From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Brough Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:23 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF24 & Pause frames. Was: MTU

Chris,

There is a known problem with AF24s generating a storm of pause frames under 
some (unknown?) circumstances.  This screws up any switch.  Since release 
1.4.7, Netonix has software that will disable flow control if it receives such 
a storm of pause frames.

In August 2017, we upgraded 123 Netonix switches to release 1.4.7 firmware and 
re-enabled flow control.  Since then we've had less than a dozen occasions when 
flow control has been automatically disabled on a Netonix port, all associated 
with AF24 radios.  In each case we've re-enabled flow control and everything 
has been fine.  I don't see a pattern yet.

Flow control:  Whenever you have an Ethernet link connected to a wireless 
bridge that can pass less than the full Ethernet speed, e.g. a 1 Gbps Ethernet 
connected to an AF24, you need flow control, i.e. you need Ethernet pause 
frames so the switch doesn't over run the radio.  Without flow control, you 
will have packet loss when the link is carrying significant traffic.

Thanks,
Brough

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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Switches that have air fibers attached to them….

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On 
Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber?
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an 
issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.

At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local tower2 
and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)

Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M 
capacity Only 50-100M used).

Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core due to 
traffic.

But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.  During 
the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be buffer, retry, 
MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay pretty stable. AMQ and 
AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.

Giving some serious thought to Preseem.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
765-584-2288 ext:1101<tel:(765)%20584-2288>

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris J. Ruschmann
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the performance 
of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] MTU

I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets or 
Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for.  
Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.

The MTU settings are as follows:
MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598         Flow Disabled
Netonix MTU: 1528                                       Both
AF5x Up to 9600 Auto                                  Flow Disabled
Rocket MTU: 1500                                         Flow Disabled
Prism MTU: 1500                                           Flow Disabled

In your experience should any of these be adjusted?

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
765-584-2288 ext:1101<tel:(765)%20584-2288>

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