Hi folks, I don't think the problem is the installer being accessible or not, at least in Ubuntu, the graphical installer works very well, at least if you have a hard drive dedicated to Linux. The thing that can be tricky, or rather that is tricky is that speecha and braille don't follow when you switch to being a root user from a regular user. You'll have to kill Orca as a regular user and then start it again as root, and this can sometimes cause problems. What would be good was if there was a way to smoothly switch speech with the user so that one could switch users without losing assistive technology and i think this is being worked on. Please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong. /Krister
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 09:38 +0300, Veli-Pekka Tätilä wrote: > mike coulombe wrote: > > but if there is a real problem getting orca to work with the install > > program. How about a automatic installer. <snip> > I think that's a great idea especially for newbies who do want to go with > the defaults. About the only setting I changed myself was the locale FInland > that is. Based on that a smart installer should be able to figure out my > time zone and keyboard, although there might not be a 1to1 mapping for all > the other countries. > > I've heard there might already be an automated deployment system for Debian, > which is called I believe automated install (kickstart in Redhat). I've > never used the thing, though. > > It would be even better if the user could customize the setup. HACking some > well commented config file to do that might be an acceptable alternative > similarly to apps like doxygen for C plus plus programmers or the HTML Tidy > manual and config file for Web authors. > > Personally, you guessed it, I would rather do this via some GUI preferably > mirroring that of the installer as much as is practical. The only OS in > which I've done that myself and really liked it was Win98, though. > > For Windows users, and I guess most people are switching from windows due to > the dominance and long-term development of apps like Jaws, Eloquence and > Zoom Text, there's another catch. That is you cannot generally make a good > accessible Windows GUI with Linux GUis like TK or GTK, or at least I've > never seen any. Maybe a cross platform solution with ports to various OSes > and GUI libs, if the users would like to do this customization before they > boot to the OS. Or some console affair written with a GUI screen readre > friendly text mode and ANSI C. AS to what's GUI reader friendly, little or > no ASCII graphics and using the standard cursor or something that's at least > shaped like a vertical bar for easy tracking. > > Or if the live CD approach is prevalent, one could do this customization in > some specialty distro. Maybe it would fit on most USB sticks and you could > at the very least easily write out the changes on some removable media. On > the other hand, if the live CD could be made to speak the installer, most > people who don't have to deploy Linux on multiple machines, could just as > well use the speaking installer directly. > > Regarding the defaults, if this is specific to folks needing accessibility, > I think the settings should reflect that. For ages I've been wishing for a > LInux distro that just worked in terms of accessibility. SOmething with as > many CLI and GUI readers, multi-lingual speech synths and accessible > versions (GTK2 or self-voicing) as is practical. Too bad the Oralux project > hasn't advanced all that much. > > I think it would be great if Gnome had the assistive technology support > enabled by default. I cannot see why it already doesn't, in fact, unless > accessibility is a major performance or stability hit. OS X has the right > attitude in this, in that a user can just start using Voice Over, and when > he or she does that, speech, full keyboard access and the accessibility API > just works. In other words, no need to configure anything. Besides, > configuring is difficult for many if you don't have speech or at least good > full-screen magnification preferrably with font smoothing (for truetype > stuff). > > -- > With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and programming: > http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila/ > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
