Hello. First time writing to these lists, and I'm writing to both because 
although my main thrust is now trying to get speakup to work, I'm sure some 
ubuntu users out there are also working with (or wanting to work with) Orca as 
well. I've a few questions/thoughts/observations. I'm pretty new to Linux 
really, but I used the OS remotely through a shell in my early internet days of 
the mid-1990s. During that time I became a little bit familiar with the command 
line in Linux and some of the console-level relevant applications (pine, lynx, 
etc) .. at the time I found this stuff really great and I thought that it might 
be cool to have my own LInux box someday, but DOS was on the way out, Windows 
taking over in a big way and so on, and I was pretty resistant but eventually 
made the switch to Windows.

Well, I finally got a second machine and someone installed Ubuntu 8.04 on it 
for me, and even built a kernel with speakup modules plugged in. This would be 
fantastic, if I could actually get speakup to work, but so far I haven't had 
any luck. I have no hardware synth, although I might be able to get a Dectalk 
Express soon, so I've been trying to use speakup with the espeakup module to 
work with the Espeak synthesiser, which I already have been using with Orca. 
The Espeak voice is something I've been having a surprisingluy hard time 
getting used to, and I wonder if I've been spoiled by Eloquence?

I have been using Orca a bit with the Gnome desktop environment. Until recently 
it wasn't working too well, but I got the Orca-SVN package and now things seem 
to run a good deal faster and crash less often. However, the more I fiddle with 
these desktop xwindows environments, the more I think, that "well, this is nice 
enough, kind of like windows and all, but I think I'd really rather use the 
console for almost anything I can think of. Why should I be attached to a GUI, 
when so many applications don't even seem to work very well with Orca"?

So, I guess my real questions revolve around wondering why I can't get Speakup 
to talk to me. Does espeakup replace speech-dispatcher? I read in the speakup 
documentation that you need SD running to use a software synth, but the person 
who installed this stuff for me seemed to indicate that SD conflicted with 
something or that espeakup somehow superceded it. I can't seem to find much 
clear information on this online, so any help would be appreciated. Right now 
my login session defaults to gnome; I try and kill orca and then exit to c    
onsole, but I get no speech, either before or after login. I feel like such a 
newby, but I really am at a loss as to what to do. Any thoughts?

JM
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