Hi everybody i have a doubt! I´m doing a research about accessibility and Linux distributions developed to people with disability
I want to know what the difference between ubuntu 8.04 and vibuntu! Waiting for answer Thanks Suelen 2008/12/11 Anthony Sales <[email protected]> > I am happy to announce that Vibuntu 1.2 is ready. It will be available for > download from around 17:00 tomorrow afternoon (Friday 12th Dec, 2008) and I > will post a more detailed release announcement tomorrow. With help from > Luke > I have now solved the problem of Orca not working with admin apps opened > from > the panel menus and enabled Braille support from boot. I feel this is a > significant release because I have now achieved all of my short term goals > for Vibuntu: Speech, magnification and Braille support available at boot > with > speech access to admin apps opened from the administration menu. I have > limited the orca support for admin apps to the menu entries, users who do > not > need speech support should use the desktop icons to launch them. This will > probably be the last release of 2008 as the next release will be rebuilt > from > scratch. I will be posting detailed instructions on how to recreate these > modifications and a wish list of future improvements etc. I would still > welcome feedback and suggestions positive or negative and would like to > thank > everyone for all their support, encouragement, and hate mail! ;) > > drbongo > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] on behalf of Peter > Fork > Sent: Thu 11/12/2008 03:50 > To: Michael Whapples > Cc: [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [orca-list] Vibuntu > > Hi > Since people like to bounce emails all over the place I've subscribed to > the > orca list as well so my mails won't get caught in the spam filter. If I > have > missed an email list I appologize in advance. On the other hand I would > rather keep the discussion to one list to keep the amount of mails sane and > the debate centralized. Therefore I think gnome-accessibility list is > better > than the orca list for the debate since it is more generall in nature than > specific to Orca. > > Replies follows to all letters in the debate. > > As I read all replies I got "much appriciation for that:-)" I don't see > that > we're having very diffrent views from each other. Rather diffrent views > from > the same side of the fence if you follow my metaphor. > > I agree that Sun and all involved are doing a great job we're all in debt > to > all of these people wether they are payed to do it or not. > > Anthony's work is a good start and surely something that lowers the bar for > people to test out linux. > > I might have wished he organized it with the community first so maybe > double > work could have been avoided or bonds of cooperation could have been formed > earlier. > > But no reason to cry over spilled milk right and actions speak louder than > words so I can only cheer for Vibuntu and hope it only improves over time. > > My questioning was made in the goodest of intents to get a creative > discussion started of best practices pros and cons of diffrent > implementations and so on. Iam glad so many has an opinion and that you > have > made me think about what I said reevaluate that and sharpen the arguments > and > thoughts on the subject. > > About logging in automatically I can accept it as long as it is used on the > live cd and not after proper install. > > About what accessibility aids should be activated I just suggested that a > user centric view much like in usability design where you lett the user > decide what to use and how, would be more preferable. If not in an kiosk > system like a live cd defenetly in a normaly installed system. I might even > agree that the guest user acount could be enabled from the start with all > aids when installed onto disk since you might not know which user will be > your computers next guest and since I asume we're talking about a fairly > new > machine. Alternative the user could state a disability category and all > relevant aids for that would load if the system provided aids for more than > one category witch Vibuntu doesn't seem to aim for. > > A small wizard with some questions could have made it easy to collect > relevant data to configure a setup for the user needed. During this process > all aids should be activated so that you no matter what disability could > complete the wizard. Let me give an example: > > 1. What kind of disability do you need after setup? > "You can mark several options with the spacebar and arrow keys. Press Enter > when done. > a. Braille > b. Text to speech > c. Speech to text > d. Visual ques > e. Magnification > f. Mousekeys > g. Extra keyboard function (typerate, sticky keys, etc) > h. pictogram > > After pressing okey next steps would be to configure the selected options > to > the users liking one by one. Maybe those options that is language specific > could be set in advance depending on what language the user has chosen at > install or bootup if live cd is used. > > Finaly: Thank you for completing setup of the system your computer is ready > to be used. > > This would enable only wanted aids and disable all others plus configured > them. We know that aids take a toll on performance and expecialy in "live" > environments be it from cd,dvd or usb. It also would minimize risk for > conflicts and bugs since less code is running. For a new user with a system > that has frozen or where he isn't familiar and might not understand how to > navigate etc is not very faar from hitting the hard reset button and > turning > to windows instead. > > End example > > > Iam not realy sure witch user group Anthony is targeting. > A new user probably will not do this alone. > An early adopter would probably forgive some rough spots > and an experienced user would probably be able to "as many of you pointed > out" fix most of these things himself. > > Since visual impairment is a disability that affects all parts of your life > Iam wondering if anyone could just put a vibuntu cd in anyones hand and > just > leave them to figure out the rest. Even though the year of the linux > desktop > has been many times anounced and improvements in usability certainly has > been > made I doubt its enough especialy when having a disability. Therefore I > believe more instructional and guiding content might be needed for new > users. > > A thought might be to strip out the 10mb of example files if it hasn't been > done already to gain some room. I heard they might increase this in next > release. > > Thanks for the straighting me out on the admin tools issue. Guess it is > some > twitching nerv in me that go off when I hear userspace programs needing > root > access to work. I might have thought the problem was bigger than it was as > well. > > okey thats it for now. > Feels good to have straighted those things out. > cu on the list > \Peter > > > __________________________________________________________ > Låna pengar utan säkerhet. 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