The first thing, what are the specs on this netbook? I have been
installing
daily builds ever since Feburary, and had never came across this
problem.
The only one I have at this point is the loss of shortcuts from the
gnome
settings center. Sounds like your video card, or memory issues might be
causing the problem. I installed the 03/27 build and never had those
problems.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Peter
Vágner
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 6:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: ubuntu 2012.04 issues
Hello,
Several days ago I've installed ubuntu 2012.04 to my usb drive for
testing.
I will go throught some issues I'm having. If you like you can take
this as
a small review. I'm sorry I won't go to much detail while talking about
stuff which already works verry well. That's the nature of many people.
People start talking when they need help or when they dislike something.
I must say I like the upcoming release of ubuntu because I can
already see a
lot of progress. For example I can use thunderbird with many more
messages
in a single folder than I was able to previously. Thunderbird startup
takes
a bit longer as discussed earlier on this and on the orca-list but it's
verry usable.
The same goes about the menus. Many people argue that gnome 2 with
its main
menu structure is better accessible. Maybe access to the aplication
icons is
better with classic gnome hower I find access to the items such as
batery
indicator, network indicator, chat / messaging indicator, volume
indicator
and others more accessible with unity-2d than it used to be with classic
gnome. It's now perfectly integrated into the menu.
The only thing I am unable to do with unity-2d is that I am unable to
see
the list of all installed applications. I can see applications on the
launcher I can also press the super key alone and do a search but I
can't
browse for an app. I am sure this can be done somehow.
I'm quite impressed how it works but here are some issues and
inconstencies
I have came accross and would like to get your feetback on.
- My netbook is a bit old and doesn't have a lot of power. It's still
able
to run ubuntu and be usable. At times when doing some inthensive
operations
e.g. loading a huge webpage in Firefox or updating parts of the page
dynamically the system is getting a bit sluggish. I know this is fine
however sometimes I don't know whether it's still doing its job or it
has
frozen. Perhaps I'm just paranoid and would like to get the progress
each
time it is doing something. In such case when the system is bussy and
I'll
press some key bindings most frequently orcas flat review commands
the orcas
ability to react to keypresses breaks. For example I can navigate
around the
desktop using the keyboard but I am unable to press ctrl key to pause
the
speech. I need to wait when the voice is done speaking and then do
the other
action because interupting speech no longer works while doing key
presses.
The cure to this is restarting orca. I can navigate to the orca main
window,
find the quit button and press it using a spacebar. Orca then quits
andI am
able to start it again by pressing alt+f2 and typing orca followed by
the
enter key press. When Orca is restarted its ability to react to
keypresses
is back to normal.
When orca is back to normal I am usually getting a crash reporter saying
that ubuntu had an internal problem. I've been able to use standard
navigation features to dismiss the crash reporter. It then opened
launchpad
with new bug form. Sometimes it's the bug about unity I've also seen
a bug
related to dbus once. At this point Firefox is working well however I am
afraid orca doesn't use the proper scripts because I can't navigate
thepage
using quick navigation commands and also I am unable to use cursor
keysfor
reading. Similar bugs have already been filled so I was not able to
properly
read bug descriptions and comments in this state and I did not
reportedthe
issue at the bugtracker.
Another thing I can notice in such a state is that when pressing
alt+tab I
am getting no speech output.
While trying to log out or restart the computers using the menu I
land on
the desktop, press alt+f10 to bring up the menu and while arrowing in
the
menu I can see it is no longer speaking as I am moving over the menu
items.
The only way to get back to normal where alt+tab and menus work is to
go to
the terminal and restart the pc using the shutdown command.
This is happenning for me quite frequently. I would be pleased if you
might
be able to look into this or possible give me some hints on how to
proceed
to diagnose it further.
I would be gratefull for possible workarounds as well.e.g. how to
prevent
orca loosing its ability to react to keypresses or how to recover
from this
without restarting the whole machine.
- On a different note I've read some exciting emails on this and also
on the
orca-list recently. Ubuntu 2012.04 is supposed to have ability to launch
orca and get speech output on the login screen. While I was
installing daily
live from 22nd of march, I've chosen to log me in automatically
during the
install. So now while my PC is booting I am logged in automatically.
After
I'm done testing and I'll remain satisfied I would like to install to
the
hdd and add multiple users so other familly members can login as well.
I've tried to test this by going to the devices menu and activating
theitem
saying logout. I've got a confirmation dialog where I've presset logout
button. After this I've waited a bit and while I did not get any audible
output I've tried pressing ctrl+s . Again I've got no audible output.
Then
I've tried tabbing around slowly pressing ctrl+s after each tab key
press
hoping I'll manage to get accessible login screen but I have never
succeeded. I had to reboot the machine in order to get to log back in.
- Now the development really progresses in huge steps so I'm updating my
installed copy quite frequently sometimes even twice a day because
occassionally apport has problems subbmitting crashes when I'm
running old
versions of some packages. Can I expect getting the great features
appearing
in the latest daily images after updating using either the update
manager or
apt-get in the console?
I am asking because login screen access, ability to use HUD and possible
other fixes were only been introduced recently and I don't seem to be
able
to test them on my installed system.
- The last issue which bugs me this time is how do I check whether a
bugfix
is going to be released or not. By reading some interesting
discussionson
empathy in the orca-list I think Joanie has fixed string mapping so
empathy
should behave properly with orca and also empathy developers fixed a
crash
preventing display of empathy preferences window when orca is
running. Can I
see info about release status somewhere in the bugtracker or do I
just need
to ask relevant contributors to push the updates into ubuntu or how
does it
work please?
Thanks verry much if you are reading this last paragraph, I know this
is a
long email. Thanks to everyone making progress, I'm really excited, I've
even contacted our local gnome translators in order to try
translating orca
and related packages to slovak.
Greetings
Peter
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