> Very good point. I am not sure that "shiny things" reffed mobile Ubuntu, and > my first thought was not this; but even if a spiffier more polished graphical > experience was what was being talked about your take is still valid. > There are probably some less than ideal moves being made at Canonical, but at > least if and until someone in a position of power says that the choice was or > is being made to prioritize some bell or whistle over accessibility it is > both counter productive and unnecesarily antagonistic to include the "shiny > things" bit in an otherwise good and important message. > Regards, > -- > B.H. > > > On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 07:13:04AM -0600, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > Below, you mention that Canonical is throwing resources at shiny > > things. I'm not sure if you're referring to Ubuntu for the phone as > > a shiny thing or not, but if you are or that's what you're implying > > then I'd suggest refraining from that in your push to get more > > resources committed to Ubuntu's accessibility. Shiny things in this > > context refer to frivolous waste of times, and I don't think > > Canonical trying to get Ubuntu into the phone space is a shiny thing > > in this sense. Remember, Canonical is a privately owned company that > > is still trying to become profitable. Having Ubuntu run on more and > > more platforms, phones, TV's, tablets, netbooks, laptops, desktops, > > servers, clouds and so on is part of the strategy to create enough > > revenue streams for Canonical to become profitable. Note that I > > don't know that Canonical is actively working to have Ubuntu run on > > all of those platforms or not; I'm just basing this assumption on > > public comments from Canonical. > > > > I think you make a lot of good points below, and I think this is a > > laudable effort, I just don't think you serve your goals by implying > > that something as significant as having Ubuntu run on smart phones > > is somehow frivolous or trivial. > > > > Note I also changed the subject line since this discussion seems to > > be much broader than just the Ubuntu Phone OS announcement. > > > > On 01/04/2013 10:50 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: > > >Here is Jono's announcement of Ubuntu for Phones: > > > > > >http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/01/02/announcing-ubuntu-for-phones/ > > > > > >My comment there appears to still be around, but I find that under > > >Ubuntu 12.10 I cannot arrow down the list of comments. Focus appears to > > >bounce to the top. That isn't Canonical's fault I'm certain, but one > > >would hope that a distribution that is changing so much about how we use > > >our computers could afford to hire enough of an accessibility team to > > >work on these types of issues. > > > > > >If people want to work on this then I'm happy to help. Quite honestly, > > >I'm burning out on accessibility. I've used and have developed for > > >Android since 1.6, when the accessibility situation there was barely > > >tolerable, and even today I'm trying so hard to contribute to the > > >Android accessibility ecosystem and am being snubbed by Google. I don't > > >know what it is about accessibility and open source culture that makes > > >it so hard for people to contribute. My girlfriend has CP, and she too > > >wishes she could use Ubuntu but doesn't because of accessibility issues. > > >I'm almost to the point of replacing my Ubuntu system with Windows just > > >because I'm tired of battling with these access issues. I have a lot of > > >respect for Canonical's small access team, but if Canonical just wishes > > >to stick its head in the sand again and again, to throw a bunch of > > >resources at shiny things while ignoring the disabled, then it will > > >quickly become apparent that Linux for Human Beings *really* means Linux > > >for Completely Able-bodied Human Beings. I understand that other > > >distributions may not be accessible either, but that is no excuse for > > >Canonical, Redhat, etc. to simply stand aside and let Linux become less > > >accessibly relevant than Windows. It's sad that I enjoy using my > > >VirtualBox Windows 7 install more than I do Ubuntu for many tasks, and > > >is sad when accessibility developers ask me why I don't just abandon > > >Linux for the far more accessible Windows., > > > > -- > > Christopher (CJ) > > chaltain at Gmail > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
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