Hi, Thanks Luke for this very interesting mail. I'm aware of accessibility issues in the modern free software world, and I try everyday to go on belfeving more success, even if I'm disappointed by recent GUI. But I go on trying to understand.
You say that GNOME shell works fine today. I feel that changes are so important that I need to deep that better. Does some doc exist about new shortcuts, new approach in accessibility? Otherwise, I'll try to write it myself. Thanks again and I hope, someday, I'll be able to help you via my organization. Regards, JP On mercredi 24 juil. 2013 à 14:04:47 (+1000), Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 01:33:34PM EST, Alex Midence wrote: > > Also, for the record, I fully recognize and appreciate all the hard > > work of the developers of the Ubuntu community who freely give of > > their time to make things accessible. However, it was disappointing > > to finally have gotten a very accessible port of Unity in 12.04 only > > to be told that we were back to poor a11y in other versions of the > > distro for at the very least 2 full years. > > For the record, I was disappointed as well. I expressed my desire for Unity > to stick with using Qt at the time, given the accessibility advantages it > brought for one, and the fact that it would have made maintaining unity > easier as the nux GUI toolkit wouldn't also need to be maintained, and Qt is > well established etc. > > I am the only developer working for Canonical who spends at least some of the > time working on accessibility issues. I say some of the time, because I do > have other duties, in fact the primary reason why I was hired was not to work > exclusively on accessibility, although the powers that be are ok with me > doing so. > > Having said that, my big focus for the next 10-12 months will almost > exclusively be getting Qt5, Mir, and Unity as accessible an environment as > one person can possibly manage. Qt5 helps somewhat, but the specific parts of > Qt that are being used for the new Unity still have some rough spots when it > comes to accessibility, and there is also the changing graphics stack and > everythign that goes with it to deal with. > > Given these changes, and given I am the only person who is likely going to be > working on all of this, I cannot really promise anything, given the work that > is required, and given the time and resources, or possibly lack there of, > available to do so. I do really appreciate that you all want regularly > updated, accessible distro releases that have the latest accessibility crack, > but please keep in mind just how many of us in the wider *nix accessibility > community there are, and also keep in mind how many of us are involved with > some form of active development in the area, and if you want to dig deeper, > think about the number of us working on GUI desktop accessibility of some > kind. > > I try to take the approach of under promising, and at least delivering, and > if I can over deliver, than thats great. > > In the meantime, there is the Ubuntu GNOME remix, with GNOME shell, wich does > work quite well these days. I'll do my best to try and fix any issues people > may notice with that release, given the accessibility tools and > infrastructure are shared with GNOME and Unity. > > Thanks, and I really appreciate your understanding, and support. > > Luke > _______________________________________________ > orca-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. > The manual is at > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
